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Re: [Inpycon] Everybody Pays Policy
by Abhishek Mishra Sept. 30, 2013

Sept. 30, 2013

On Kiran's compasions - Agile India is run by a training company, not by a community, most probably also not by any kind of external volunteers. UX-India - The 10k quote is for the last moment walk-ins and limited to 10. So that is a misquote, and a wrong comparison. While taking the same, the student discount is mere 2.5k, 1/4th the highest. UX-India, quite a number of speakers are from NY, California, and other parts of USA. UMO is mostly supported by design schools around India, so the high price of the tiickets may be to cover for those. Again, not so much of a open community, quite more like design schools' community. JSConf asia, quite an amazing venue. But as you try to find traces of community, in their about section at the very bottom, you will find two individuals. Even the communication of feedbacks is not open to all. Many speakers are from sponsoring orgs. It's very hard, or maybe wrong to compare community driven, controlled, event like PyCon India with such examplers and then decide if the prices should go north or what policy should be followed. Abhishek

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Suggestions for the next PyCon
by Nigel Babu Sept. 30, 2013

Sept. 30, 2013

Hi there, PyCon was great and congratulations to the organizers and volunteers. I want to bring up a few things I thought we should think of doing before I forget. * Actually conference being on Friday and Saturday. This is probably a bit debatable. We'd have people needing to take a day off from work or college on Friday to attend. But the advantage is that people get a day off to recover instead of heading back to work or college directly on Monday. * Schedule printed on a sheet small enough to carry. We had a large pouch for the ID card. If the schedule was printed small enough to fit in there, that'd have been incredibly useful. I know this is challenging enough with last minute changes, but just a thought. * Schedule stuck outside the halls and in the common areas. I only noticed the schedule outside the main auditorium. It'd have been nice to have it displayed near the second one as well. * A separate page on the website with a very lightweight schedule. I'm thinking on the lines of a text file. Conference internet can be a little unspectacular. It'd be nice to be able to see the schedule even on slow internet. Nigel.

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Everybody Pays Policy
by Anand Chitipothu Sept. 27, 2013

Sept. 27, 2013

Hi, Just came across this blog post by Jesse Noller explaining why everybody pays for PyCon. http://jessenoller.com/blog/2011/05/25/pycon-everybody-pays At this year's PyCon India, some speakers were upset that they have to pay for the conference. I think we should make this point very clear from the beginning. Also, at the end of that post, there is a section on percentage splits of the total costs. It'll be nice to see similar split for PyCon India 2013 expenses. Anand

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PyCon India 2013 - Videos
by Anand Chitipothu Sept. 26, 2013

Sept. 26, 2013

Hello everyone, We did a good job of recording and processing videos this year. The best videos we had so far at any PyCon India. Thanks to HasGeek for their support and video volunteers without whom this wouldn't be possible. There were 21 talks, 2 keynotes and one panel discussion, a total of 24 sessions. The video of one talk, "Scaling Telephony with Python: The Plivo Learnings" by Nishad Musthafa was corrupted and we couldn't recover it. I've processed all other videos and uploaded 11 of them to youtube. http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL6GW05BfqWIdsaaV35jcHWPWTI-DAw6Yn Remaining 12, I've given to Vishal for uploading. They will be uploaded in next couple of days. Anand

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Re: [Inpycon] Everybody Pays Policy
by Kiran Gangadharan Sept. 26, 2013

Sept. 26, 2013

Hi, Kiran Jonnalagadda has clearly mentioned as to why "Everybody pays" policy works and why we should move ahead with this. Instead of just debating more and more over this, why not create a simple poll using google forms or something, and see what majority of the people think instead of polluting the mailing lists with all sorts of arguments ? Cheers, Kiran Gangadharan

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Re: [Inpycon] Everybody Pays Policy
by Navin Pai Sept. 24, 2013

Sept. 24, 2013

> Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2013 14:09:02 +0530 > From: Anand Chitipothu <anandology(a)gmail.com> > To: Mailing list for the PyCon India conference <inpycon(a)python.org> > Subject: Re: [Inpycon] Everybody Pays Policy > Message-ID: > <CAC7wXFyecoVw7zn+D9p= > 5XXae2tGnHs0CZciZa+C7rUoDzgJ+g(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 1:45 PM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal(a)nibrahim.net.in > >wrote: > > > Anand B Pillai <anandpillai(a)letterboxes.org> writes: > > > > > > [...] > > > > > This article was written a while ago but was highlighted recently when > > > there were a few tweets about it. Also we don't officially follow PSF > > > policy blindly and make our own policies. > > > > > > I think as we were not clear and forthright on this as PSF was, there > > > was a thinking that speakers need not pay. We have had some > > > discussions in the past on such lines, so to me it is not surprising > > > that there was such a feeling. > > > > > > Please note that PSSI is an independent organization with its own > > > policies - we definitely use PSF policies as guidelines and references > > > but don't automatically subscribe to them. I hope this is very clear. > > > > Agreed. > > > > I do, however, like the "everyone pays" policy. It keeps the management > > simple and the whole affair clear and transparent. > > > > I too think "everyone pays" is a nice policy. It really brings out the > community sprit, everyone is equal at the conference. organizers, speakers > and volunteers are not privileged. > > Anand > +1 to that Anand. But somewhere, I understand the sentiment of not having speakers pay. Especially when we have student speakers, for whom money is tight. I remember a couple conferences which gave speakers free entry, which enabled me, then in my UG years to speak and learn at conferences which I doubt I'd have been able to even attend, given the costs, otherwise. Then again, as the article mentions, that's more suitable for corporate oriented confs. There is probably a better way, such as student discounts, to tackle the issue better. Would love to have more thoughts on this... Thanks Navin "M@dMAx" Pai

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Points to ponder
by Noufal Ibrahim Sept. 3, 2013

Sept. 3, 2013

First of all, Congratulations to everyone involved in running this. The conference was a definite improvement over the past few years. Here are some points I have that we should consider. 1. We need more "heads" that decide all details of each activity. Just like Vishal headed the a/v thing. I'm saying this because for things like open spaces, there were issues like opening up the one on top, A/C in audi 3 etc. These are decisions that Anand and Vijay shouldn't have to bother about. There should be one guy in charge of this and that's that. It will make management much more smooth. 2. We have to keep a note of FAQs people ask. I'm emphasising the "F" in FAQ. One example. Lots of people got confused about the workshop tickets and having to pay separately for them. We should really call them "Python workshops before PyCon India" or something similar and have maybe even have a separate doattend page for them. Anything to make them distinct from the main conference registrations. 3. We need to make the conference more woman friendly. It was better than last time but female participants especially from outside Bangalore asked about things like accomodation, travel etc. These are important and we need to have something in place for them. I'd very much like organisations like pyladies to take a more active role in matters like this. 4. We need to have way more time for the CFP and for talk selection. This time was much better and I think we hit a decent method. Now, we just need to scale it up. 5. Let's open up a small lightning talk registration online before the event starts? Might get more interesting people. 6. More work on panels. Thanks. -- Cordially, Noufal http://nibrahim.net.in

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Re: [Inpycon] [gsoc-india] Re: A BoF session about Google Summer of Code at PyConIndia tomorrow
by Dhruv Baldawa Sept. 2, 2013

Sept. 2, 2013

Hi, It was awesome meeting everyone at PyCon. Sarup, can you make the spreadsheet you created earlier public ? Everyone can add/update their details accordingly. -- Dhruv Baldawa (http://www.dhruvb.com) On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 5:09 PM, Anuj Deshpande <anujdeshpande92(a)gmail.com>wrote: > Could we have the group photo posted here ? > > > On Saturday, August 31, 2013 11:55:18 PM UTC+5:30, Amber Jain wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> I hope that everyone who was a PyCon India today enjoyed it a lot (like I >> did). >> >> I'm a Google Summer of Code 2012 intern. I met over a dozen fellow >> GSoCers at PyCon India today. I'm sure that there are other ex-GSoC interns >> roaming around at PyConIndia's venue. Dhananjay (another ex-GSoCer) >> suggested to do a BoF [1] session to talk about GSoC. All current/past GSoC >> interns/mentors (as well as those who are interested in applying to GSoC in >> future) are invited. I guess this will be the first time GSoC interns from >> different years and from different states of India will be together at one >> place. >> >> Please note, afaik, you can only attend PyCon India if you purchased a >> ticket from http://in.pycon.org/2013/. I'm sorry but we can't do >> anything about this. Please make sure that you have a PyCon India ticket >> before you plan to attend this event. >> >> Date: September 1, 2013 >> Time: 12:15pm >> Venue: PyCon India Open Space (Auditorium 3 at NIMHANS Convention Center: >> https://maps.google.com/maps?**q=NIMHANS+convention+centre+** >> bangalore&t=m&z=13<https://maps.google.com/maps?q=NIMHANS+convention+centre+bangalore&t=m&z=13> >> ). >> >> See you there! >> >> >> [0] http://www.google-melange.com/**gsoc/homepage/google/gsoc2013<http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/homepage/google/gsoc2013> >> [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Birds_of_a_feather_%**28computing%29<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birds_of_a_feather_%28computing%29> >> >> -- >> Amber Jain >> i.ambe...(a)gmail.com >> http://amberj.devio.us/ >> > -- > > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Google Summer of Code - Indian Community" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to gsoc-india+unsubscribe(a)googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/gsoc-india. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >

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This Pycon was Awesome!!!
by Abdul Muneer Sept. 2, 2013

Sept. 2, 2013

Hi All, This was a fantastic edition of Pycon India!! Thank you all for pulling it off. It was a complete improvement in all aspects when compared to last year. The organizers have taken all the feedback from previous years and ensured improvement. Quality of the talks, the venue and the facilities - there is no area that was not improved over the previous years. We may not be absolutely perfect yet (especially regarding quality of a few talks), but we have come a long way. We even had novel initiatives like Python Month and Panel Discussion this year which stood out. I also think limiting the number of tracks helped in better coordination and arrangement. Having dedicated workshops also helped. All organizers and volunteers, take a bow. Heartfelt thanks to you all. Regards, Abdul Muneer -- Follow me on Twitter: @abdulmuneer <http://twitter.com/#%21/abdulmuneer>

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Feedback on Pycon
by Aditya Atluri Sept. 1, 2013

Sept. 1, 2013

I have one word. Awesome. The time management is the best thing you managed. Food is delicious. A hundred thumbs up for all organisers and volunteers. Thank you Aditya Avinash Atluri, Sent from HTC One S.

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