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PyCon India | Workgroup Formation
by Ramanathan Ramakrishnamoorthy April 15, 2018

April 15, 2018

Hi All, This mail is regarding workgroup formation for the various teams required for PyCon India 2018. Before we begin, I would like to state the below to avoid any confusion. *Workgroup* - Core group of people responsible for the execution of tasks mandated for a given team. The workgroup is also responsible for setting guidelines on the team's working. As a community, we can come to a consensus about people involved in a workgroup. Typically, we could have 4-6 people per workgroup. It would also be great to have representation from various active Python communities so that the conference works as a comprehensive effort by everybody. *Volunteers* - The workgroup along with the volunteers execute the various tasks in the shape and form as agreed within the workgroup. Ideally, anybody and everybody who want to contribute to the given team can sign up as volunteers. Please note, a call for volunteers will follow once workgroups are created. *Local Moderators (HydPy in case of 2018)* - Responsible for moderating the workgroup and coordinating things within the team. They are also the Point Of Contact for the conference chair for the given team. *Conference Chair* - In case of any conflicts within the group (and the moderator is unable to resolve), Conference chair will take the final decision. At this point, we need workgroups to be formed for the following teams. I have also mentioned the names of the HydPy Moderators for each of the teams. 1. *Website/Design* - Chirag Choudary/Ananyo Maiti 2. *CFP/Sessions* - Ramanathan R/Divya 3. *Sponsorship* - Chirag Choudhary/Kanchan 4. *Social Media* - Sanchit Balchandani *Conference Chair* - Manivannan Elangovan Local logistics will not need workgroup from outside of HydPy. Finance (coordination with PSSI) will be dealt directly by the conference chair + HydPy moderators. FTR, HydPy moderators for Finance team will be *Gokul Vasan/Renu*. I request the community to come forward and nominate yourself for being part of a workgroup. Please fill the google form ( https://goo.gl/forms/gUjqKPKi8Imhtjgn1) to nominate yourself. The nomination process would be closed by *March 28th*. Please note, this is *not* a call for volunteers, and hence it would be great to have people with some experience in respective/similar workgroups. Request nobody to get offended as we are asking for prior experience. Given that this is the first time we are trying out the workgroup model it would be great if people with expertise come forward and set the process so that the baton could be passed on to anybody interested from next year. Cheers, Ram.

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PyCon India 2018 | Suggestions for Keynote speakers
by Ramanathan Ramakrishnamoorthy April 15, 2018

April 15, 2018

Hi All, As most of you would aware, PyCon India is happening in Hyderabad on October 5-9, 2018 We have one confirmed keynote speaker (Travis Oliphant) who we had invited as part of planning for PyCon Hyderabad. We reached out to him about the change in plans, and he has confirmed his availability for PyCon India 2018. On the other hand, Nick Coughlan has backed due to some personal reasons. As part of the event, we intend to have four Keynote speakers which means we need to identify three more keynote speakers. We request the community to provide suggestions for Keynote speakers. Based on popular ask, we can reach out to the speakers requesting them to Keynote. Thanks, Ramanathan.

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Volunteering
by Varun Singhal April 14, 2018

April 14, 2018

Hi team, I recently came to know about Pycon India 2018. I am excited to be there as a volunteer. I applied for conference and volunteering at Pycon Pune 2018 too. I am an engineering student and can provide technical help as a volunteer. Please respond with the complete procedure and information. Thanks!

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Pycon India - Hyderabad
by E Manivannan April 12, 2018

April 12, 2018

Hi All, Please find the final schedule & plan for Pycon India 2018. *Dates*: 5th - 9th Oct, 2018 *Venue*: HICC, Novotel Hyderabad. Event format, Workgroup & Finance details are mentioned in the document. We are in procees of updating the website & starting the ticketing process as well. Link <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pwi69D-cfdiFN8vv6AMbdAJwkIpDipMoB0DmQVa…> Let me know your thoughts. Regards, __Mani

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PyCon India 2018 - Venue and Sponsorship Details
by vijay kumar March 28, 2018

March 28, 2018

Hi All, As announced in the mailing list earlier, we have booked BIEC[0] for August 22nd - August 24th, 2018. Below are the payment details. Tentative cost: 14 Lakhs for 3 days Payment made: 10% : 2nd week of Dec Remaining payment: 20% : Feb 2018 20% : April 2018 50% : 1 month before the event. I would request the team leading PyCon India 2018 to connect with me so that I drop introductory email with BIEC team. On sponsorship, We reached out to all previous PyCon India sponsors We received confirmation from Pipal Academy (Associate sponsorship with 50% discount since they are supporting PyCon India from couple of years) for whom PSSI has raised invoice and I believe it was shared with the sponsor as well. Discussions were initiated by couple of other sponsors but have not received any confirmation, neither did I follow up with them after I stepped down. Request PyCon India 2018 team to connect with me if any additional details required, I would be happy to help. [0] : https://mail.python.org/pipermail/inpycon/2017-December/011433.html Thanks, Vijay

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Pycon India 2018 - Hyderabad
by E Manivannan March 22, 2018

March 22, 2018

Hi All, It's Official now - Pycon India 2018 will be hosted in Hyderabad by Hydpy team. As next Step: I want to introduce key member of HydPy Team who will be looking at different aspect of the conference. - Ramanathan Ramakrishnamoorthy (Ram) - Responsible for CFP, Venue/Food & Faclities - Chirag Choudhary (Chirag) - Responsible for Sponsor, Website, Social Media & Design - Gokul Vasan (Gokul) - Responsible for Finance & Ticket They will be sending next steps in forming work groups & publish list of moderator/DRI (Directly Responsible Individuals) for each working group. Please provide support & enable them, so we can all have wonderful conference. Regards, Mani

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Stepping down from the PyCon India 2018 core team
by chandan kumar March 22, 2018

March 22, 2018

Hello Anand Chitipothu, Noufal Ibrahim, Anand Pillai, Bibhas and the other members of the community, Sayan and I initially proposed to organize PyCon India's 10th anniversary in Bangalore [1]. During the initial planning phase, we had requested Bangpypers community to support [2]. We have done two face to face meetings in Bangalore and have had several hangout sessions. The minutes of the meetings were also posted to mailing lists. During the first face to face meeting at the Cafe Coffee Day near Forum Mall, Bangalore, we formed the team. We consulted Vijay and Vanitha to help in the core team. Vijay joined us as sponsorship & Python for Kids Track co-ordinator and Vanitha was helping Content, CFP, and other parts as required. The core team consisted of these 4 people to start with, apart from that, we had website, content and social media team for helping each other. We tried to keep all the discussions transparent on the mailing lists and IRC. We have done call for volunteers for every task as and when required. We wanted to follow 2014/2015 model of working and make the conference decentralized as that's how we can build future leaders for the community. Vijay laid the foundation for a decentralized way of working in the year 2014 and 2015. He always encouraged each volunteer to understand and take the responsibility to own the task end to end, provided confidence and made them comfortable. The job of core team was to support volunteers on a need basis. Under the leadership of Vijay during PyCon India 2015, we had taken PyCon India one step above and all the participants, from sponsors till attendees had something to appreciate in the event. I don't think anyone can deny that PyCon India 2015 was one of the best conferences to date. Here you can find the complete volunteers list [3]. I do not think there was transparency maintained in last two editions of PyCon India (2016 and 2017) where I and many other volunteers had helped in shaping the volunteering team on conference days. In spite of us raising concerns during PyCon India 2016 feedback sessions on bringing all the discussions in the mailing list, in 2017 edition all the discussions were taken offline through Telegram groups. Were those Telegram groups more trustworthy and transparent than this year team? All the decisions were taken by a particular group of people in their sacred Telegram groups without consulting the remaining community (makes me think of the high Priests culture). No concerns could have been raised by the community then as no community had a chance to get involved (thanks to those sacred groups of Lords and friends). Last year, even a profit-making organization was given permission to conduct hackathon without any discussion with the community. If anything would have gone wrong during the hackathon, it would have impacted the Python Community in India not a particular group of people and I am not sure if everything was analyzed before taking a call. We all saw one incident during the panel discussion, and how it was handled. We haven't even seen event report for last year from the organizers or PSSI, is not that a basic rule for the PSF grant? Where were all the folks who are commenting now when all this did not care? How would PSF trust us next time when we approach any grant? Are not we impacting whole Indian Python community with this act? There was a big discussion on Github access policy. How was the original access provided? Is it true that it was based on 1:1 Telegram discussion, as I haven't' seen any discussion here, now without the proper information he merged a request and we all spoke all policy? Can Anand C, Noufal, and Anand P share information on how original access was provided? Did you guys check if he was just reviewing? Is that really community way of working? Let me share how we all did in 2014 or in 2015. It was based on trust. Every year is a fresh start. We reconfigure access to email alias, social media, and other required locations. let us know if we misunderstood it? Coming to PSSI, they have given us n-steps on how invoices should be raised for sponsorship money, one step says they are the only people to share invoice as they are the statutorily accountable for invoices. We completely understand we wanted one changed in steps Sponsorship co-ordinator will loop PSSI board while we should be sending an invoice as continuity for discussion instead of PSSI suddenly sending the invoice as a surprise. The problem is it took 5 days for PSSI treasurer to accept our proposal, but other members did not agree. Looks like PSSI even don't trust that we will do it in right spirit and they are citing like a company where marketing team's job is to find a customer and let other teams take over. Does PSSI really trust any PyCon India volunteers? And that makes me think of a very interesting point. If the people (Lords?) running PSSI are so concerned about the community, why are you not involving the community in the organization (PSSI), instead kicked everyone else out from the organization (no one allowed us to renew our memberships)? Could anyone please tell me when was the last Annual General Meeting happened? So, please do not show your concern about the community when you do not care about the community at all. In the last thread, Vijay and Vanitha stepped down and we both are in there in core team still. Yet, you have asked for a new leadership team to run PyCon India 2018 without consulting us. Looks like you and others already have a plan in place and wanted us to move away. Since this community does not trust the core volunteers and most of the people had already had some plans made, I do not think we are needed here anymore. Sayan Chowdhury and I are stepping down from the PyCon India 2018 core team, I hope new team members will continue the work as they want. Links: [1]. https://mail.python.org/pipermail/inpycon/2017-November/011249.html [2]. https://mail.python.org/pipermail/bangpypers/2017-October/011872.html [3]. https://in.pycon.org/2015/team.html Thanks, Chandan Kumar & Sayan Chowdhury

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Pycon India 2018 - Proposal
by E Manivannan March 19, 2018

March 19, 2018

Hi All, Thank you for the support. Please find my proposal for the event - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pwi69D-cfdiFN8vv6AMbdAJwkIpDipMoB0DmQVa… I have 2 major concern both are highlighted in the document. Please provide your input as comment or respond on this email thread. Regards, Mani *Note*: Changed the subject to have clear thread. On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 11:29 PM, Shashank Kumar <abc(a)shanky.xyz> wrote: > Hi > > > On Monday 12 March 2018 09:18 PM, E Manivannan wrote: > > > Hi All, > Hyderabad Python group(HydPy) is organising "Pycon Hyderabad" in > the 1st weekend of October, 2018. > > We have a team of volunteers who are working on upcoming conference > relentlessly & we have got in-principle agreement from 2 international > speakers to be the keynote speakers as well. > Having said that, I wanted to see a lot more enthusiasm, commitment & free > spirit from rest of the community in organising Pycon India. However I'm > disappointed with the direction it has taken so far. I was very sad when > Pycon Pune got cancelled and now Pycon India event also seems to be in > jeopardy, which is completely not acceptable to me & rest of the community. > > So here is my proposal, HydPy is willing to host "Pycon India" event in > Hyderabad instead of "Pycon Hyderabad" this year. Current HydPy volunteers > will work with rest of the volunteers across India to make this event > happen in October, 2018. We would need some level of automnomy in running > the event - venue, food, ticket volunteer etc. > > If the community agrees, Hydpy will host Pycon India 2018 otherwise you > are all welcome to join us in "Pycon Hyderabad 2018". > > > Regards, > Mani > > > Awesome news, thanks HydPy for the initiative. I'm all in for this. > > Regards > Shashank Kumar > https://blog.shanky.xyz > > > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon(a)python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > >

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Pycon India 2018
by E Manivannan March 15, 2018

March 15, 2018

Hi All, Hyderabad Python group(HydPy) is organising "Pycon Hyderabad" in the 1st weekend of October, 2018. We have a team of volunteers who are working on upcoming conference relentlessly & we have got in-principle agreement from 2 international speakers to be the keynote speakers as well. Having said that, I wanted to see a lot more enthusiasm, commitment & free spirit from rest of the community in organising Pycon India. However I'm disappointed with the direction it has taken so far. I was very sad when Pycon Pune got cancelled and now Pycon India event also seems to be in jeopardy, which is completely not acceptable to me & rest of the community. So here is my proposal, HydPy is willing to host "Pycon India" event in Hyderabad instead of "Pycon Hyderabad" this year. Current HydPy volunteers will work with rest of the volunteers across India to make this event happen in October, 2018. We would need some level of automnomy in running the event - venue, food, ticket volunteer etc. If the community agrees, Hydpy will host Pycon India 2018 otherwise you are all welcome to join us in "Pycon Hyderabad 2018". Regards, Mani

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Re: [Inpycon] Pycon India 2018
by Anand Chitipothu March 14, 2018

March 14, 2018

On Mar 12, 2018 9:19 PM, "E Manivannan" <elangovan.manivannan(a)gmail.com> wrote: Hi All, Hyderabad Python group(HydPy) is organising "Pycon Hyderabad" in the 1st weekend of October, 2018. We have a team of volunteers who are working on upcoming conference relentlessly & we have got in-principle agreement from 2 international speakers to be the keynote speakers as well. Having said that, I wanted to see a lot more enthusiasm, commitment & free spirit from rest of the community in organising Pycon India. However I'm disappointed with the direction it has taken so far. I was very sad when Pycon Pune got cancelled and now Pycon India event also seems to be in jeopardy, which is completely not acceptable to me & rest of the community. So here is my proposal, HydPy is willing to host "Pycon India" event in Hyderabad instead of "Pycon Hyderabad" this year. Current HydPy volunteers will work with rest of the volunteers across India to make this event happen in October, 2018. We would need some level of automnomy in running the event - venue, food, ticket volunteer etc. If the community agrees, Hydpy will host Pycon India 2018 otherwise you are all welcome to join us in "Pycon Hyderabad 2018". +1 I think you will have enough atonomy to running the event. PSSI need to be involved for receiving and sending/paying money and paying taxes. It would be good to use this mailing list for most of the discussions so that everyone is aware of what is going on. Anand

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