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When someone from Britain speaks, Americans hear a "British accent"...
by muldoon July 4, 2005

July 4, 2005

Americans consider having a "British accent" a sign of sophistication and high intelligence. Many companies hire salespersons from Britain to represent their products,etc. Question: When the British hear an "American accent," does it sound unsophisticated and dumb? Be blunt. We Americans need to know. Should we try to change the way we speak? Are there certain words that sound particularly goofy? Please help us with your advice on this awkward matter.

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Re: Favorite non-python language trick?
by Tom Anderson July 4, 2005

July 4, 2005

On Fri, 24 Jun 2005, Joseph Garvin wrote: > Claudio Grondi wrote: > > So far we've got lisp macros and a thousand response's to the lua trick. > Anyone else have any actual non-python language tricks they like? Higher-order functions like map, filter and reduce. As of Python 3000, they're non-python tricks. Sigh - i guess it's time for me to get to know list comprehensions a bit better. The one thing i really do miss is method overloading by parameter type. I used this all the time in java, and it really notice the lack of it sometimes in python. No, it's not really possible in a typeless language, and yes, there are implementations based on decorators, but frankly, they're awful. Yeah, and i'm with "if False:" for commenting out chunks of code. tom -- ... but when you spin it it looks like a dancing foetus!

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Python for everything?
by xeys_00＠yahoo.com July 3, 2005

July 3, 2005

I posted a article earlier pertaining programming for my boss. Now I am gonna ask a question about programming for myself. I just finished my first C++ Class. Next semester is a class on encryption(and it's probably gonna be a math class too). And finally back in programming in the fall with C++ and Java 1. The C++ will cover pointers, and linked lists, sorting algorithms, etc... I run linux and OS X. I have read in the old days that C was used for everything. It was a systems programming language, and also did a lot of the same stuff Bash scripts and perl do now. So, in that era, C did it all, from short to tall. My question is, can Python "do it all"? I am wondering what to learn as my scripting language. I have read that perl is good up to about 250 lines, and after that it gets kind of hairy. However, from what little I have heard about Python, it's very well suited for readability due to the whitespace requirements of the language, and very good for large projects due to it's large amount of modules and it's object oriented structure. I would like opinions as to the suitability of Python as a general purpose language for programming unix, everything from short scripts to muds. Thanks for your patience, opinions, and comments. Xeys

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PIL question: keeping metadata
by Ivan Herman July 3, 2005

July 3, 2005

A question on using the PIL library. If I take a jpg file then, say, resize it and save it somewhere else, all metadata that is part of the jpg file is lost. This is a pity: digital cameras routinely add metainformation, so does, for example, Photoshop. Is there any way of keeping this info in PIL? Alternatively, is there a simple image processing package that does it? Ivan

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Inheriting from object
by Fuzzyman July 3, 2005

July 3, 2005

Hello, To create a classic (old style) class, I write : class foo: pass To do the equivalent as a new style class, I write : class foo(object): pass *Should* I in fact write : class foo(object): def __init__(self, *args, **kwargs): object.__init__(self) ? Also, can anyone explain any tangible benefit of inheriting from object, when not explicitly using any features of new style classes ? Thanks :-) Fuzzyman http://www.voidspace.org.uk/python

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Re: Favorite non-python language trick?
by James July 3, 2005

July 3, 2005

Interesting thread ... 1.) Language support for ranges as in Ada/Pascal/Ruby 1..10 rather than range(1, 10) 2.) Contracts 3.) With

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Re: POP3 and "seen" flag
by Peter Hansen July 3, 2005

July 3, 2005

Miki Tebeka wrote: > Is there a way to know in a POP session of a message was seen (old) or not > (new)? Define "seen". It could be interpreted as either "TOP" or "RETR" having been executing for a message, or something like "this client has seen this message before" ... not sure what you mean. In any case, the short answer is "no". The longer answer is that _some_ POP3 servers provide non-standard support for this by doing things like adding a special header to the message, things like "X-Seen", which can be seen by using the TOP command. This sort of thing is entirely non-standard and you can't rely on it in general, AFAIK. A better approach would be to have your client software track the Message-ID header, but something tells me you are interpreting "seen" as meaning "anyone has RETRed the message", so that won't work either. -Peter

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Running Python interpreter in Emacs
by Rex Eastbourne July 2, 2005

July 2, 2005

Hi, I'm interested in running a Python interpreter in Emacs. I have Python extensions for Emacs, and my python menu lists "C-c !" as the command to run the interpreter. Yet when I run it I get the message "Spawning Child Process: invalid argument." What do I need to do/download to fix this? I read in a post in this group from a while back where someone had the following lines in his .emacs file: (setq interpreter-mode-alist (cons '("python" . python-mode) interpreter-mode-alist)) Does that have something to do with it? Do I have to set my load-path to my python interpreter? Thanks, Rex

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Re: When someone from Britain speaks, Americans hear a "British accent"...
by Tom Anderson July 2, 2005

July 2, 2005

On Thu, 30 Jun 2005, Benji York wrote: > python-needs-more-duct-tape'ly yours, You're in luck: Python 3000 will replace duck typing with duct taping. tom -- I know you wanna try and get away, but it's the hardest thing you'll ever know

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Re: Modules for inclusion in standard library?
by Paul Rubin July 2, 2005

July 2, 2005

Gregory Piñero <gregpinero(a)gmail.com> writes: > I'd like to see some database API's to the most common databases > included. Yes, certainly, this is a serious deficiency with Python.

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