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by ali alali June 28, 2010

June 28, 2010

http://www.islamhouse.com/tp/236845

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Copy / Update - Paste a directory.
by Alban Nona June 28, 2010

June 28, 2010

Hello everybody ! wow my first time on this mailing list :) Well, here the deal. Im doing a script that basically copy and past into the local drive a specified directory with all this files. Im doing the copy with a copytree which is working well. But, (and I know it will not work as copytree dont update directory) Im, like, stuck when I have to update the directory. For a better understanding here what the tree look like: G:/prod/actual/project/xxx/shot/shot_EN_006/render/v001 and sometime as we have to rerender, we update the "render" folder with a v002: G:/prod/actual/project/xxx/shot/shot_EN_006/render/v002 So, actually my script can copy my *G:/*prod/actual/project/xxx/shot/shot_EN_006/render/v001 directory to *C:/*prod/actual/project/xxx/shot/shot_EN_006/render/v001 but I dont know how to proceed to update this folder when asked. Here the actual script, as you can see the update part will not work. Anyone can help me to figure out a solution please ?. Thank you and have a good day !

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Re: I strongly dislike Python 3
by Grant Edwards June 28, 2010

June 28, 2010

On 2010-06-28, Thomas Jollans <thomas(a)jollans.com> wrote: > On 06/28/2010 03:21 AM, Stephen Hansen wrote: >> On 6/27/10 6:11 PM, geremy condra wrote: >>> On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 8:50 PM, Grant >>> Edwards<invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: >>>> If you install a real shell on Windows, then the hash-bang line works >>>> fine. :) >>> >>> Might as well spare yourself the trouble and install linux or *bsd. It's >>> probably easier. >> >> Not at all, bash via msys is trivial to install and use. >> > > Installing Linux is still a LOT easier than installing a working MSYS > since you get proper package management with proper dependency > resolution, while with MSYS, you end up downloading dozens of different > inter-dependent GNU packages one-by-one until anything works. At least > that's what it looked like a couple of months ago. > > Granted, cygwin has a nice installer. Cygwin's installer is OK if you're installing while online. Otherwise, it's difficult unless you download absolutely everything. -- Grant Edwards grant.b.edwards Yow! Let me do my TRIBUTE at to FISHNET STOCKINGS ... gmail.com

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Re: I strongly dislike Python 3
by Paul Rubin June 28, 2010

June 28, 2010

Terry Reedy <tjreedy(a)udel.edu> writes: > Having completely switched from 'printf(' to 'print ', I have had a > bit of a problem switching back to 'print('. It is my single largest > source of typos. But a decent system that puts me at the site of > syntax errors alleviates this. Logic bugs are a much bigger problem. I tend to print a lot of tracing messages in my programs, in the form print (x, y, z) expecting to print the tuple (x,y,z) in a form that I can read back into an analysis program. That's going to break without throwing any syntax errors if I ever switch to Python 3.

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RE: Continuously running scripts question
by jyoung79＠kc.rr.com June 28, 2010

June 28, 2010

Thank you all very much for your replies. Appreciate your thoughts. I'll check this out. Thanks. Jay -- > On 2010-06-25, Tim Harig <usernet at ilthio.net> wrote: >> It sounds to me, since your script is acting on an event, that it >> would benefit from using something like inotify, or whatever your >> system equivilant would be (FSEvents for Mac? FAM framework for general >> POSIX. There are python modules available.), so that your script can >> react when (and only when) it notices changes to the folder in question. > pynotify (Linux inotify): > http://trac.dbzteam.org/pyinotify > > FSEvents wrapper: > http://pypi.python.org/pypi/pyobjc-framework-FSEvents/2.2b2 > > FAM: > C libraries and daemon: > http://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/fam/ > Python wrapper: > http://sourceforge.net/projects/python-fam/ > > Similar functionality is available for other platforms; but, you will need > to look at the documentation for those platforms for information on how to > access it.

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Is safe to use the shelve module with eventlet?
by Alex June 28, 2010

June 28, 2010

Hi all. I'm using eventlet <http://eventlet.net/> to build a simple web crawler. Can I use the shelve module for data persistence? Will I run into problems due to the non-blocking nature of eventlet? Thanks in advanced. Alex

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I wander which is better? JSP or Python? And is there a place for JSP?
by Roger June 28, 2010

June 28, 2010

As I plan to study JSP, I find it extremly complicated and a part of J2EE. I did not attend to get the whole of J2EE. I hope anybody can describe the future of JSP. Is there a place for JSP?

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compile as exe with arguments
by dirknbr June 28, 2010

June 28, 2010

I want to compile as an exe using py2exe but the function should take arguments. How would I do this? Currently my exe runs (no errors) but nothing happens.

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disputing the history of lisp machines
by Xah Lee June 28, 2010

June 28, 2010

just discovered a blog written by a old lisper Dan Weinreb, refuting on a story on Lisp Machine companies as told by Richard Stallman. “Rebuttal to Stallman’s Story About The Formation of Symbolics and LMI” (2007-11), by Dan Weinreb. At http://danweinreb.org/blog/rebuttal-to-stallmans-story-about-the-formation-… >From my experience, and extensive reading about Richard Stallman since late 1990s, that i would believe Dan Weinreb on this more than Richard Stallman. I find Richard Stallman's writings, are often biased, and in many of his writings and lectures i've seen, he's even intentionally mis-infom people for his point of view on the philosophy of software licensing. (see http://xahlee.org/UnixResource_dir/writ2/FSF_philosophy.html ) Dan Weinreb's blog article probably has been mentioned here before, but i felt it be announced again. Xah ∑ http://xahlee.org/ ☄

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Famous Emacs People With Hand Injuries
by Xah Lee June 28, 2010

June 28, 2010

• Famous Emacs People With Hand Injuries http://xahlee.org/emacs/emacs_hand_pain_celebrity.html plain text version follows. --------------------------------------------------------- Famous Emacs People With Hand Injuries Xah Lee, 2010-06-28 This page collect tales of computer programer celebrities who have injured their hand seriously by Repeatitive Strain Injury (RSI), in particular, due to use emacs. -------------------------------------------------- Richard Stallman, FSF/GNU Founder Richard Stallman's RSI is well known during the 1990s. I remember reading about it somewhere on his website in the 1990s, perhaps on gnu.org, but i couldn't find it now. At one point, i remember that he is trying to switch to voice systems. Here's a second hand tale. Which Keyboard? (2007-06-21), by Michael Tiemann, at cnet.com Fast forward twenty years and I was working 12-16 hours a day hacking on the GNU C++ compiler with more than 100,000 lines of code to my name, and loving every minute of it. One weekend I visited Richard Stallman at MIT and I was shocked to learn that he could no longer type. He was given strict instructions by his doctor to not touch a computer keyboard for 6-12 months, and that if he did, he may lose forever his ability to type. He was a programming pioneer, and at the time, his symptoms were not well known or understood. We all came to understand that it was RSI--repetitive stress injury, exacerbated by the very keystroke combinations that made the Emacs editor such a powerful programming environment. But the root cause was not Emacs--it was the punative design of the QWERTY keyboard, a legacy of the industrial era when complex keyboard mechanisms were not able to keep up with the speed of human fingers. ... Note: Michael Tiemann was a founder of Cygnus (Cygwin), then later was CEO of Redhat when Redhat bought it. -------------------------------------------------- Jamie W Zawinski Jamie Zawinski is the main developer of Xemacs, when it was called Lucid Emacs around 1989, and he is often the one blamed for the emacs/ xemacs schisim. Jamie is also well known for being the main developer of Netscape browser when the web started in mid 1990s. Jamie keeps a diary on computer, before there's a word “blog”, and in his writings scattered around his diaries he has talked about his hand injury situation, in his dot com work-to-death years. Here are some quotes from his writings online: my wrists and welcome to them (1999), by Jamie Zawinski. At jwz.org. For several years I had pretty severe wrist pain, and it terrified me. I had these visions of me with withered stumps at the ends of my arms, trying to limp along using speech-recognition software, and my career being over. The folllowing is from: the netscape dorm (1994), by Jamie Zawinski, at jwz.org. My hands have been really been hurting lately; I hope all this typing hasn't finally blown out my wrists. If I can't type, my life is over. My right hand especially is flaking out -- the last knuckle of the middle two fingers ache, as if they're badly bruised. I guess it's time to figure out how to use our medical program. As if a doctor is going to tell me something other than ``stop typing so much.'' Ha ha ha, that's a good one. -------------------------------------------------- Ben Wing, Xemacs Main Developer Ben Wing, is the main developer of Xemacs in the 1990s, following Jamie W Zawinski. Following is a quote from his xemacs home page at http://xemacs.org/People/ben.wing/ Since September 1992, I've worked on XEmacs as a contractor for various companies and more recently as an unpaid volunteer. Alas, life has not been good to me recently. This former San Francisco "Mission Critter" developed insidious hand and neck problems after a brief stint working on a Java-based VRML toolkit for the now defunct Dimension X, and I was forced to quit working. I was exiled first to "Stroller Valley" and later all the way to Tucson, Arizona, and for two years was almost completely disabled due to pain. More recently I have fought my way back with loads and loads of narcotic painkillers, and after a stint as an art student at the University of Arizona I'm currently a Ph.D. student in linguistics at the University of Texas, Austin. It's hard to find much info about Ben Wing online. His pages haven't been updated for something like 15 years, and his domain name 666.com has been squatted. I gather he's no longer in the programing industry since late 1990s. -------------------------------------------------- John Ousterhout John Ousterhout, most well known as the inventor of the tcl language, developed RSI. He switched to using a voice system for almost everything. Here's his article on RSI. Dealing With RSI (1995-2007), by John Ousterhout. At Source. I started having pain in my left wrist in 1995, and the problems got progressively worse in spite of (and partly because of) various attempts at treatment. In 1996 I started using a speech recognition system and stopped using my left hand for any typing at all. My experience suggests that once you start having RSI problems they are unlikely to go away by themselves. Everyone I've ever heard of with RSI problems (myself included) ignored early warning signs and didn't take action anywhere near soon enough, even when the symptoms started becoming severe. It's not clear to me that you can ever "recover" from RSI; all you can do is stabilize at your current level of disability. If there is any recovery, it takes many years. Though, not sure if John is a emacs user. -------------------------------------------------- Others Bill Clementson, a long time lisp programer and emacs user (career started in 1992 according to resume), developed RSI, and adopted the Kinesis Contoured Keyboard as a solution. He wrote about 7 blog articles about it from 2004 to 2006. See his blog at: bc.tech.coop. Alex Schroeder, best known as the one who started emacswiki.org, also developed RSI. You can find some discussion about RSI here: emacswiki.org RepeatedStrainInjury. On tips of Kinesis + emacs, see: emacswiki.org KinesisKeyboard. If you know other programing celebrities with RSI, please let me know. Thanks. Related: * Why Emacs's Keyboard Shortcuts Are Painful * A Ergonomic Keyboard Shortcut Layout For Emacs * How To Avoid The Emacs Pinky Problem * The Idiocy of Hacker Keyboards * Keyboard Hardware's Influence on Keyboard Shortcut Design * Keyboard Hardware Design Flaws Xah ∑ http://xahlee.org/ ☄

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