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Re: venvs vs. package management
by Piergiorgio Sartor May 20, 2024

May 20, 2024

On 19/05/2024 08.49, Peter J. Holzer wrote: [...] > That's what package management on Linux is for. Sure, it means that you > won't have the newest version of anything and some packages not at all, > but you don't have to care about dependencies. Or updates. Well, that doesn't work as well. Distributions do not pack everything, this also depending on licenses. Sometimes, or often, you need to use the *latest* version of something, due to some bugfix or similar. The distribution does not always keep up to date everything, so you're stuck. The only solution is a venv, with all needed packages for the given task. Typical problem with PyTorch / TensorFlow. In case of trouble, the first answer is: "Check with the latest (nightly) release". Which means installing something *outside* the Linux distribution support. And this impossible, because this will pull in dependencies like crazy, which are not (yet) in the Linux distribution path. Saying it differently, the latest greatest update is not a wish, it's a must... So, long story short, the only solution I know are venvs... Of course, other solutions are welcome! bye, -- piergiorgio

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Re: Terminal Emulator (Posting On Python-List Prohibited)
by Grant Edwards May 20, 2024

May 20, 2024

On 2024-05-19, Gilmeh Serda via Python-list <python-list(a)python.org> wrote: > On Sun, 19 May 2024 08:32:46 +0100, Alan Gauld wrote: > >> I've honestly never experienced this "nightmare". >> I install stuff and it just works. > > Hear! Hear! Me too! And all that. > > I'm on Manjaro, which is a tad finicky about other people touching its > Python since it's used for lots of things. I install things for myself > only. > > Was there a reason they chose the name Pip? I always assumed it was in honor of the PIP (Peripheral Interchange Program?) utility that was used to copy files around on CP/M and DEC's PDP-11 OSes. -- Grant

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Re: Terminal Emulator (Posting On Python-List Prohibited)
by MRAB May 20, 2024

May 20, 2024

On 2024-05-19 19:13, Gilmeh Serda via Python-list wrote: > On Sun, 19 May 2024 08:32:46 +0100, Alan Gauld wrote: > >> I've honestly never experienced this "nightmare". >> I install stuff and it just works. > > Hear! Hear! Me too! And all that. > > I'm on Manjaro, which is a tad finicky about other people touching its > Python since it's used for lots of things. I install things for myself > only. > > Was there a reason they chose the name Pip? > [snip] From https://pip.pypa.io/en/stable/: "pip is the package installer for Python." It's an acronym.

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Re: Terminal Emulator (Posting On Python-List Prohibited)
by 2QdxY4RzWzUUiLuE＠potatochowder.com May 20, 2024

May 20, 2024

On 2024-05-19 at 18:13:23 +0000, Gilmeh Serda via Python-list <python-list(a)python.org> wrote: > Was there a reason they chose the name Pip? Package Installer for Python https://pip.pypa.io/en/stable/index.html Every time I see PIP, I think Peripheral Interchange Program, but I'm old.

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Re: Terminal Emulator (Posting On Python-List Prohibited)
by 2QdxY4RzWzUUiLuE＠potatochowder.com May 20, 2024

May 20, 2024

On 2024-05-19 at 18:13:23 +0000, Gilmeh Serda via Python-list <python-list(a)python.org> wrote: > Was there a reason they chose the name Pip? Package Installer for Python https://pip.pypa.io/en/stable/index.html

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PyCon
by Larry Martell May 19, 2024

May 19, 2024

I’m at PyCon in Pittsburgh and I’m haven’t an amazing time!

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Terminal Emulator
by Gordinator May 18, 2024

May 18, 2024

I wish to write a terminal emulator in Python. I am a fairly competent Python user, and I wish to try a new project idea. What references can I use when writing my terminal emulator? I wish for it to be a true terminal emulator as well, not just a Tk text widget or something like that. If you have any advice, please do let me know!

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Version of NymPy
by Popov, Dmitry Yu May 16, 2024

May 16, 2024

What would be the easiest way to learn which version of NumPy I have with my Anaconda distribution?

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Re: Terminal Emulator
by Gordinator May 15, 2024

May 15, 2024

> We need somethin like a portable curses module (plus colorama) Agreed, getting curses to work on Windows is SUCH a pain, and I don't think I've ever done it. Naturally, as a Linux user, I don't find much need to do it anyway. Colorama would also be cool in the standard library as well. I have worked on projects in the past where only the standard library could be used, so I 100% agree with this. But that's something for the PSF to talk about. Maybe someone could write a PEP for this.

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help
by Enrder May 14, 2024

May 14, 2024

good tader I need help to install the bcml, and is that after installing the python and I go to the command prompt and put ''pip install bcml'' to install it tells me "pip" is not recognized as an internal or external command, program or executable batch file. I have tried everything, uninstalling and installing, restoring it, activating and deactivating all the checkboxes that appear in the options section, I searched the internet and the same thing keeps happening to me. If you can help me, I would appreciate it very much. Translated with DeepL.com (free version) Enviado desde [1]Correo para Windows References Visible links 1. https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986

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