🌐 Mailman 3 October 1996 - Pythonmac-SIG - python.org

Yes, but can it do... THIS?
by Joseph Strout Jan. 22, 1997

Jan. 22, 1997

I encountered "Chipmunk Basic" for the Mac the other day. It's a freeware BASIC implementation which can do some pretty nifty stuff in its Mac version, such as sprites (shapes which arrange themselves in layers, move around without clobbering the background or each other, and provide for collision detection). I've been looking for a language to get some young brothers-in-law into programming, and sprites would be a big plus (gives a language "Pac-Man equivalence"). But BASIC is pretty nasty by modern standards; Python is much nicer. So. Any sprite libraries for Mac Python yet? Thanks, -- Joe ,------------------------------------------------------------------. | Joseph J. Strout Department of Neuroscience, UCSD | | jstrout(a)ucsd.edu http://www-acs.ucsd.edu/~jstrout/ | `------------------------------------------------------------------' ================= PYTHONMAC-SIG - SIG on Python for the Apple Macintosh send messages to: pythonmac-sig(a)python.org administrivia to: pythonmac-sig-request(a)python.org =================

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Building WxPyMac & WxPython
by Steven D. Majewski Oct. 30, 1996

Oct. 30, 1996

Ok -- I've gotten and built Python-1.4 for Mac ( I haven't tested it with Tcl 7.6 and Tk 4.2 yet ) and I've built the WxPyMac161 (d-a5 release) library. Are there any notes on how to build Python with the WxPyMac library ? ---| Steven D. Majewski (804-982-0831) <sdm7g(a)Virginia.EDU> |--- ---| Department of Molecular Physiology and Biological Physics |--- ---| University of Virginia Health Sciences Center |--- ---| P.O. Box 10011 Charlottesville, VA 22906-0011 |--- By doing just a little every day, you can gradually let the task completely overwhelm you. ================= PYTHONMAC-SIG - SIG on Python for the Apple Macintosh send messages to: pythonmac-sig(a)python.org administrivia to: pythonmac-sig-request(a)python.org =================

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MacPython 1.4 bug!
by jeffrey P. Shell Oct. 29, 1996

Oct. 29, 1996

eep! found a nasty nasty nasty li'l bug in MacPython 1.4 (CFM68k): .pyc files are messed up. here's the story: I got MacPython 1.4 yesterday, and noticed a way cool speed improvement in SIOUX. I was wanting to profile some code i was working on (the Pummel project) and wrote a small test function in the source file so i could Profile it. But the test function wasn't showing up in the interpreter at all, wether i quit and restarted and imported the module, or wether i did reload(module). So, i scrapped all my .pyc files in the directory i was working in and lo! it showed up. "No biggie," i thought, "just a change in releases changed the .pyc format". But now, all the new .pyc files were of type/creator TEXT/ttxt (Simpletext). (But, the new .pyc files being generated in the lib directory were of the correct type/creator). I ran all the profiler stuff, and went back to working on the source. I decided to test something: i changed a __version__ reference in one of my modules. Then i reloaded the interpreter and imported that module. when i tried to print the __version__, i got "0.6b1", the old value (in the .pyc file). i kept the interpreter open and trashed the .pyc file and did a reload(module), and printed the __version__ and got "0.6b2". Is anyone else having problems with this? of course, Jack would have to run to Athens for a few days.. -- .jPS || jeff(a)cynapses.com || http://www.cynapses.com/ry/ ================= PYTHONMAC-SIG - SIG on Python for the Apple Macintosh send messages to: pythonmac-sig(a)python.org administrivia to: pythonmac-sig-request(a)python.org =================

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MacPython 1.4 & Numeric Python
by Rob Managan Oct. 29, 1996

Oct. 29, 1996

Has anyone built version 1.4 from the source? I have had a few problems. the file macgetpath.c references GUSILoadConfiguration which is not resolved. I guess this means that Jack modified the standard GUSI distribution since this routine is not in the CWGUSI distribution. I do have NumPy working with the 1.4b3 release if anyone wants it. *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-**-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*- Rob Managan mailto://managan@llnl.gov LLNL ph: 510-423-0903 P.O. Box 808, L-178 FAX: 510-423-5804 Livermore, CA 94551-0808 ================= PYTHONMAC-SIG - SIG on Python for the Apple Macintosh send messages to: pythonmac-sig(a)python.org administrivia to: pythonmac-sig-request(a)python.org =================

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Macintosh distributions of Python 1.4 available
by Jack Jansen Oct. 28, 1996

Oct. 28, 1996

The Macintosh distributions of Python 1.4 are available at <ftp://ftp.cwi.nl/pub/jack/python/mac> (and they will probably show up at ftp.python.org sometime this or next week). There are 4 distributions available: PPC, Classic 68K, CFM68K and source. The CFM68K distribution (which has the same shared code model as the PPC distribution and allows use of dynamically loaded modules and applets in Python) is the preferred distribution for 68K macs, the classic distribution is only meant for people who cannot run cfm68k on their machine. In addition, for people with old machines with little memory there is a "lite" version of the classic interpreter, without tkinter and img support. Main mac-specific differences with the 1.4b4 distribution (aside from bug fixes) are a different preference file handling, AppleScript server support (and, hence, an initial framework for writing CGI scripts in Python) and interfaces to let the finder start applications for you, copy files, etc. The Relnotes-1.4 file has full details. The distributions do not include the numeric and pil extensions, I will ship these separately. And, as proscribed by the Python Distribution Dictum "Thou shalt plan great voyages mere seconds after releasing a distribution": I will be gone to Athens for a few days. -- Jack Jansen | ++++ stop the execution of Mumia Abu-Jamal ++++ Jack.Jansen(a)cwi.nl | ++++ if you agree copy these lines to your sig ++++ http://www.cwi.nl/~jack | see http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/spg-l/sigaction.htm ================= PYTHONMAC-SIG - SIG on Python for the Apple Macintosh send messages to: pythonmac-sig(a)python.org administrivia to: pythonmac-sig-request(a)python.org =================

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Re: [PYTHONMAC-SIG] OSA version of Python?
by Jack Jansen Oct. 23, 1996

Oct. 23, 1996

> > Does an OSA (i.e. Open Scripting Architecture) version of Mac Python exist > or is somebody working on one? Many people have expressed interest in OSA-python, but I don't have the time to look into it. Maybe some people on the list could form a taskforce and see how much work it would be? -- Jack Jansen | ++++ stop the execution of Mumia Abu-Jamal ++++ Jack.Jansen(a)cwi.nl | ++++ if you agree copy these lines to your sig ++++ http://www.cwi.nl/~jack | see http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/spg-l/sigaction.htm ================= PYTHONMAC-SIG - SIG on Python for the Apple Macintosh send messages to: pythonmac-sig(a)python.org administrivia to: pythonmac-sig-request(a)python.org =================

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OSA version of Python?
by Michael Schuerig Oct. 22, 1996

Oct. 22, 1996

Does an OSA (i.e. Open Scripting Architecture) version of Mac Python exist or is somebody working on one? Michael ================= PYTHONMAC-SIG - SIG on Python for the Apple Macintosh send messages to: pythonmac-sig(a)python.org administrivia to: pythonmac-sig-request(a)python.org =================

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Re: [PYTHONMAC-SIG] Re: GUSI
by Jack Jansen Oct. 18, 1996

Oct. 18, 1996

> > from ftplib import FTP > x = FTP() > x.set_debuglevel(2) > x.connect("anyoldhost", 21) # FTP_PORT = 21 > > Somewhere in here the TCP receive routines would hang waiting for a long > time (despite some of the server's welcome text getting printed), and > _Fread would get into the bad state of counting down from 0xFFFFFFFF. No problem here, it works fine. One change I made since the 1.4b3 distribution is that I changed all the makefile('r') to makefile('rb') in ftplib.py, maybe that makes a difference? -- Jack Jansen | ++++ stop the execution of Mumia Abu-Jamal ++++ Jack.Jansen(a)cwi.nl | ++++ if you agree copy these lines to your sig ++++ http://www.cwi.nl/~jack | see http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/spg-l/sigaction.htm ================= PYTHONMAC-SIG - SIG on Python for the Apple Macintosh send messages to: pythonmac-sig(a)python.org administrivia to: pythonmac-sig-request(a)python.org =================

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Re: [PYTHONMAC-SIG] Re: GUSI
by Doug Wyatt Oct. 17, 1996

Oct. 17, 1996

At 11:49 +0200 10/17/96, Jack Jansen wrote: > > > The 1.4b3 distribution has a number of patches to GUSI, have you applied > > > these? I remember a similar crash in the exit code, but I can't remember > > >what > > > I did exactly to fix it, but the patches did seem to fix it. > > > > > I looked around a bit in the 1.4b3 distribution for something labelled as a > > patch to GUSI (I have CWGUSI 1.80) but didn't find anything. > > You're right: I didn't do the GUSI mods until after the 1.4b3 distribution. > They are mods relative to GUSI 1.7.2. I will get the 1.8 distribution, see > whether it still needs the mods and include them in the forthcoming 1.4 > release. > > Is the code that exhibits the bug easily isolated? If so I would like a copy > to test it here... Yes, I did the following (this is from memory, I don't want to crash my Mac at the moment): from ftplib import FTP x = FTP() x.set_debuglevel(2) x.connect("anyoldhost", 21) # FTP_PORT = 21 Somewhere in here the TCP receive routines would hang waiting for a long time (despite some of the server's welcome text getting printed), and _Fread would get into the bad state of counting down from 0xFFFFFFFF. Thanks for looking into this. Doug -- Doug Wyatt software development, Opcode Systems Inc. doug(a)opcode.com http://www.sonosphere.com/doug/ ================= PYTHONMAC-SIG - SIG on Python for the Apple Macintosh send messages to: pythonmac-sig(a)python.org administrivia to: pythonmac-sig-request(a)python.org =================

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Re: [PYTHONMAC-SIG] Re: GUSI
by Jack Jansen Oct. 17, 1996

Oct. 17, 1996

> > The 1.4b3 distribution has a number of patches to GUSI, have you applied > > these? I remember a similar crash in the exit code, but I can't remember > >what > > I did exactly to fix it, but the patches did seem to fix it. > > I looked around a bit in the 1.4b3 distribution for something labelled as a > patch to GUSI (I have CWGUSI 1.80) but didn't find anything. You're right: I didn't do the GUSI mods until after the 1.4b3 distribution. They are mods relative to GUSI 1.7.2. I will get the 1.8 distribution, see whether it still needs the mods and include them in the forthcoming 1.4 release. Is the code that exhibits the bug easily isolated? If so I would like a copy to test it here... -- Jack Jansen | ++++ stop the execution of Mumia Abu-Jamal ++++ Jack.Jansen(a)cwi.nl | ++++ if you agree copy these lines to your sig ++++ http://www.cwi.nl/~jack | see http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/spg-l/sigaction.htm ================= PYTHONMAC-SIG - SIG on Python for the Apple Macintosh send messages to: pythonmac-sig(a)python.org administrivia to: pythonmac-sig-request(a)python.org =================

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