🌐 Mailman 3 September 1997 - Pythonmac-SIG - python.org

MacPython 1.5 questions and suggestions
by Steven D. Majewski Sept. 11, 1997

Sept. 11, 1997

Trying out an old plugin with Mac Python 1.5a3, I get an error from the import because the core library is named "PythonCore 1.5a3" instead of "PythonCorePPC" as previously. Is this name change intention because there are significant enough mods that 1.4 plugins *shouldn't* work with 1.5 Core ? (OR) Is the name change intentional so that you can fiddle with the new alphas and keep the old core around without any problems ? (OR) Is this name change intentional because nobody wanted to muck about and figure out how library versioning works on the Mac. If it's any other than the first, I may try to look into it and see if there is a better way. ( That's the point of shared libraries -- the ought to be drop replacable unless the interface has changed. ( And I keep running into things (MacSWIG was the latest), that won't run under MacOS 8 because they use a beta of Tk8.0. )) What do you think about splitting the Tk library out of the Core PPC Library ? Although, we might still distribute it in the Python binary distribution, so that folks aren't required to gather up different bits from around the net -- but they could also upgrade Tk, if an 8.01 appears, without rebuilding Python. ( assuming the Tck/Tk folks don't much with the names also. ) Also, it could be possible to use a weak import so that it will run without the Tk libraries present. ( This requires a minor change to the source to check that the library entry point is not Null before calling the init. ) ---| Steven D. Majewski (804-982-0831) <sdm7g(a)Virginia.EDU> |--- ---| Department of Molecular Physiology and Biological Physics |--- ---| University of Virginia Health Sciences Center |--- ---| P.O. Box 10011 Charlottesville, VA 22906-0011 |--- All power corrupts and obsolete power corrupts obsoletely." - Ted Nelson _______________ PYTHONMAC-SIG - SIG on Python for the Apple Macintosh send messages to: pythonmac-sig(a)python.org administrivia to: pythonmac-sig-request(a)python.org _______________

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Python 1.5a3 available for PSA members
by Jack Jansen Sept. 4, 1997

Sept. 4, 1997

Folks, I just released (with a lot of help from Just) a 1.5a3 distribution to the PSA members. If you're not a PSA member but think you could contribute to the alpha testing send me a mail and try to convince me to send you a copy, -- Jack Jansen | ++++ stop the execution of Mumia Abu-Jamal ++++ Jack.Jansen(a)cwi.nl | ++++ if you agree copy these lines to your sig ++++ http://www.cwi.nl/~jack | see http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/spg-l/sigaction.htm _______________ PYTHONMAC-SIG - SIG on Python for the Apple Macintosh send messages to: pythonmac-sig(a)python.org administrivia to: pythonmac-sig-request(a)python.org _______________

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NumPy release
by David Eidelman Sept. 3, 1997

Sept. 3, 1997

Thanks very much for the prompt reply regarding the Python Numeric package. I note however that there is a discrepancy between the binaries and the source Jack's FTP directory. The source is for 1.0b3, the binaries for one of the "a" releases. I briefly tried building the sources using CW Pro1 but encountered a number of not found errors when the project opened. Are the PPC binaries for 1.0b3 available? David -- David Eidelman, MD Associate Professor Meakins-Christie Laboratories McGill University 3626 rue St. Urbain Montreal, Quebec, Canada H2X 2P2 tel: (514) 398-3864 fax: (514) 398-7483 email: david(a)meakins.lan.mcgill.ca _______________ PYTHONMAC-SIG - SIG on Python for the Apple Macintosh send messages to: pythonmac-sig(a)python.org administrivia to: pythonmac-sig-request(a)python.org _______________

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Re: [PYTHONMAC-SIG] daemons on the Mac
by Jack Jansen Sept. 3, 1997

Sept. 3, 1997

Well, I tried your script under 1.5a3 (which'll be available to PSA members sometime this week) and it works fine (even with the listen(0)). It also doesn't eat CPU time and is responsive to events when in the foreground. The whole event handling in the mainloop has been revamped for 1.5a3, so I'd definitely like feedback if people still find funny behaviour with it... As to FBA's: I can't get them to work. Is anyone on the list familiar with writing them? I think the problem is related either to someone (Sioux? Python itself?) trying to install a menubar or someone calling WaitNextEvent. Does anyone happen to know whether either of these is illegal for FBA's? Also: is there a runtime call I can do to see whether I run as a FBA or a normal application (so I can try to refrain from any illegal behaviour when running an FBA-applet)? (In case it helps: my FBA *does* create an entry in the applications menu, but it is an empty entry, i.e. without a name. Trying to select the entry means immedeate death to your system). Once we can write FBA's in Python the only hurdle left is device drivers:-) -- Jack Jansen | ++++ stop the execution of Mumia Abu-Jamal ++++ Jack.Jansen(a)cwi.nl | ++++ if you agree copy these lines to your sig ++++ http://www.cwi.nl/~jack | see http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/spg-l/sigaction.htm _______________ PYTHONMAC-SIG - SIG on Python for the Apple Macintosh send messages to: pythonmac-sig(a)python.org administrivia to: pythonmac-sig-request(a)python.org _______________

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Python/AppleScript
by Thomas Tiemann Sept. 3, 1997

Sept. 3, 1997

Hi, I'm Thomas and I have a question to Python and AppleScript. Is it possible to handle Data between Python-Scripts and Apple-Scripts. Thomas _______________ PYTHONMAC-SIG - SIG on Python for the Apple Macintosh send messages to: pythonmac-sig(a)python.org administrivia to: pythonmac-sig-request(a)python.org _______________

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Re: [PYTHONMAC-SIG] Numerical Python on the Mac
by Jack Jansen Sept. 2, 1997

Sept. 2, 1997

> Does anyone know if the numerical python extensions developed by the > matrix-sig have been (are being?) ported to the Mac? It's available at <http://www.cwi.nl/~jack/macpython.html>. I'm pretty sure I told the numerics folks about this, but apparently they haven't updated their page. Starting with the 1.5 distribution NumPy and Pil will be optional items in the standard Mac distribution. -- Jack Jansen | ++++ stop the execution of Mumia Abu-Jamal ++++ Jack.Jansen(a)cwi.nl | ++++ if you agree copy these lines to your sig ++++ http://www.cwi.nl/~jack | see http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/spg-l/sigaction.htm _______________ PYTHONMAC-SIG - SIG on Python for the Apple Macintosh send messages to: pythonmac-sig(a)python.org administrivia to: pythonmac-sig-request(a)python.org _______________

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Numerical Python on the Mac
by David Eidelman Sept. 1, 1997

Sept. 1, 1997

Does anyone know if the numerical python extensions developed by the matrix-sig have been (are being?) ported to the Mac? The current web page suggests that this is going on but has not been updated in some months. If a port is not underway, could anyone provide me with pointers about how to go about doing a port? Thanks David Eidelman Meakins-Christie Laboratories McGill University _______________ PYTHONMAC-SIG - SIG on Python for the Apple Macintosh send messages to: pythonmac-sig(a)python.org administrivia to: pythonmac-sig-request(a)python.org _______________

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