🌐 Mailman 3 December 1999 - Pythonmac-SIG - python.org

Re: [ANNOUNCE] PySol 3.10 - a solitaire game collection
by Joachim Schmitz Dec. 27, 1999

Dec. 27, 1999

Hi, did anyone successfully run it on an iMac. After loading about 85 % the loading stops with an "not enough memory error" ? On Wed, 22 Dec 1999, Markus F.X.J. Oberhumer wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > > PySol - a Solitaire Game Collection > Version 3.10 > > http://wildsau.idv.uni-linz.ac.at/mfx/pysol.html > > Copyright (C) 1998, 1999 Markus F.X.J. Oberhumer > <markus.oberhumer(a)jk.uni-linz.ac.at> > > > What is PySol ? > =============== > > PySol is an exciting collection of 128 solitaire card games. > > Among the supported games are classics like Aces Up, Baker's Game, > Canfield, FreeCell, Forty Thieves, Golf, Klondike, Monte Carlo, > Osmosis, Pyramid, Scorpion, Spider, Yukon, and many more... > > PySol may be freely distributed under the terms of the GNU GPL. > > PySol aims to be Commercial Quality Freeware. > > > Why yet another solitaire game ? > ================================ > > Here are some highlights of PySol: > > - currently supports 128 (!) distinct solitaire variants > - based upon an extensible solitaire engine > - very nice look and feel including multiple cardsets > and background table tiles > - unlimited undo & redo > - load & save games > - player statistics and log files > - hint system > - demo games > - support for user written plug-ins - add your own solitaire variants > - integrated HTML help browser > - lots of documentation > - fully portable across Unix/X11, Windows 95/98/NT and MacOS > - written in 100% pure Python > - just run it - no need to compile anything > - freely available > - distributed under the GNU GPL with full source code > > > Yeah, I know. But what's new ? > ============================== > > * Implemented 17 new games. > > * Added sound support including samples and background MP3/MOD music. > Sound is implemented by a rather generic server (a C program) using > the SDL library for low-level mixing and playing. > > * Wrote some really fancy tree dialogs - Python programmers will > definitely love these :-) > > * Added 19 great cardsets to pysol-cardsets. Many thanks to T. Kirk. > > > Cool. Where can I get it ? > ========================== > > Point your browser to http://wildsau.idv.uni-linz.ac.at/mfx/pysol.html > The PySol Gallery is awaiting your visit as well. > > > What do I need to start playing ? > ================================= > > PySol requires Python 1.5.2 and Tcl/Tk 8.0.5. Both packages are > freely available for Unix, Windows 95/98/NT and Macintosh. > > BTW, there is no need to compile anything since the whole program is just > a Python script. Just run it, and that's all. > > > Contributions > ============= > > I'm looking for people who want to contibute new games, provide > additional graphics, scan cardset packs, improve the docs, etc. > Please see the README in the distribution about details. > > > License terms > ============= > > PySol is Copyright (C) 1998, 1999 Markus Franz Xaver Johannes Oberhumer > > PySol is distributed under the terms of the GNU General Public License (GPL). > See the file COPYING. > > > Have fun, > Markus > > http://wildsau.idv.uni-linz.ac.at/mfx/pysol.html > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: 2.6.3ia > Charset: noconv > > iQCVAwUBOGAYJ210fyLu8beJAQH9EgQAsRwAPJHhEm1aMN9C+FVbhcDHrkqOUOmT > WrD7sJRtvFpFfZ72GrcYpczgmB3tjwJsfh2C4dOtajrBGdIZuCh5z+f7aHnp77n7 > oOPKxmpmQzlq/l5t2hlhewbE2dXFMh8+dbbygzfGVgORs0SbKi8CxTQFjzoZPy4t > p6TiDKXl9bw= > =5B4i > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > -- > http://www.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list > Mit freundlichen Grüßen Joachim Schmitz WWW-Consultant email: js(a)ac-copy.net tel: +49-241-89491-0 fax: +49-241-89491-29

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Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] [Q] how to disable stderr/stdout console?
by Jack Jansen Dec. 24, 1999

Dec. 24, 1999

> The console-behaviour (close-on-exit, etc) is controlled by > Python, but you are of course free to change that after calling > PyMac_Initialize(). > > and it is precisely this latter thing that I want to do. How? Through the Sioux options struct. The MetroWerks documentation should tell you how to do this (and, actually, I think the header file sioux.h has almost all the needed information). -- Jack Jansen | ++++ stop the execution of Mumia Abu-Jamal ++++ Jack.Jansen(a)oratrix.com | ++++ if you agree copy these lines to your sig ++++ www.oratrix.nl/~jack | see http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/spg-l/sigaction.htm

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Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] two questions.....
by Jack Jansen Dec. 23, 1999

Dec. 23, 1999

> > One more quickie.... I'm trying to do some primitive profiling to see > what the #&^#$ is taking all the time. I try to use time.time() but > on the Mac for some reason it's resolution is 1.0 sec! Is there > a more fine-grain timer out there that I could (easily?) use? MacOS.GetTicks() gives the time in 1/60th second ticks since startup. But be aware that it'll wrap in a couple of weeks or so. -- Jack Jansen | ++++ stop the execution of Mumia Abu-Jamal ++++ Jack.Jansen(a)oratrix.com | ++++ if you agree copy these lines to your sig ++++ www.oratrix.nl/~jack | see http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/spg-l/sigaction.htm

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Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] two questions.....
by Jack Jansen Dec. 22, 1999

Dec. 22, 1999

> I'm getting (CW5): > > Link Error : export symbol '_PyImport_LoadDynamicModule' is undefined This is solved by rebuilding the .exp file. The details are in :Mac:Demo:building.html. > Link Error : export symbol '__reopen' is undefined > > Link Error : CFM68K_Startup.c: '__reopen' is undefined or is not an exportable object. > > Link Error : CFM68K_Startup.c: '_PyImport_LoadDynamicModule' is undefined or is not an exportable object. > > Link Error : venusMOS:Applications:Development:CWGUSI:src:GUSIMSLFile.cp: '__num_to_file' referenced from 'GUSISetupMSLSIOUX()' is undefined. > > Link Error : venusMOS:Applications:Development:CWGUSI:src:GUSIMSLFile.cp: '__num_to_file' referenced from 'fwalk' is undefined. > > Link Error : import.c: '_PyImport_DynLoadFiletab' referenced from '_PyImport_DynLoadFiletab' [DataPointer] is undefined. > > What version of GUSI are folks using with these projects? These are indeed incompatabilities between your version of CWGUSI and CW Pro 5. For the time being I've put the working CWGUSI (a modified 1.8.5, I think) from my disk in ftp://ftp.cwi.nl/pub/jack/python/mac/CWGUSI-for-Python152.hqx . We'll go to GUSI 2.0 for the next release, I hope. -- Jack Jansen | ++++ stop the execution of Mumia Abu-Jamal ++++ Jack.Jansen(a)oratrix.com | ++++ if you agree copy these lines to your sig ++++ www.oratrix.nl/~jack | see http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/spg-l/sigaction.htm

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[Q] how to disable stderr/stdout console?
by Giorgio Brajnik Dec. 22, 1999

Dec. 22, 1999

Hi there. I've got this problem when building an application that embeds python. My C++ program calls PyMac_Initialize(), and as a result of this a blank console window is opened. How should I do to get rid of it at the very beginning? Some pythonmac documentation says: Embedding Python on the mac is pretty similar to embedding it on other platforms, but a few points need mentioning: You call PyMac_Initialize() in stead of Py_Initialize(). The prototype is in macglue.h. This call initializes the toolbox, GUSI (if needed), sets up the correct resource files and calls Py_Initialize. You have to be consequent in your use of GUSI. If the library uses it so should your program and vice versa. The console-behaviour (close-on-exit, etc) is controlled by Python, but you are of course free to change that after calling PyMac_Initialize(). and it is precisely this latter thing that I want to do. How? Thanks a lot Giorgio Brajnik ______________________________________________________________________ Dip. di Matematica e Informatica | voice: +39 (0432) 55.8445 Universita` di Udine | fax: +39 (0432) 55.8499 Via delle Scienze, 206 | email: giorgio(a)dimi.uniud.it Loc. Rizzi -- 33100 Udine -- ITALY | http://www.dimi.uniud.it/~giorgio

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two questions.....
by Steve Spicklemire Dec. 22, 1999

Dec. 22, 1999

Thanks for the help with sending keystrokes. Now I have two more problems. ;-) 1) Performance. My solution works.... very slowly. I have a MacPython frozen application that uses ctb to monitor the serial port for incoming codes from an IR remote control decoder I built. When it gets a code it converts it to a 'key press' and sends it as an AppleEvent to AkuaSweets_InterfaceSweet. If you have ideas about this... code is posted below. 2) Performance. Well.. this is more about my attempt to sort out (1). I thought about building a module that doesn't use AppleEvents at all. (I'm not sure that AppleEvents are the problem... but I need to get this working of other reasons anyway...) I went out this morning and got the latest stuff from CVS (Python and MacPython). When I try to build PythonCore.prj I'm getting (CW5): Link Error : export symbol '_PyImport_LoadDynamicModule' is undefined Link Error : export symbol '__reopen' is undefined Link Error : CFM68K_Startup.c: '__reopen' is undefined or is not an exportable object. Link Error : CFM68K_Startup.c: '_PyImport_LoadDynamicModule' is undefined or is not an exportable object. Link Error : venusMOS:Applications:Development:CWGUSI:src:GUSIMSLFile.cp: '__num_to_file' referenced from 'GUSISetupMSLSIOUX()' is undefined. Link Error : venusMOS:Applications:Development:CWGUSI:src:GUSIMSLFile.cp: '__num_to_file' referenced from 'fwalk' is undefined. Link Error : import.c: '_PyImport_DynLoadFiletab' referenced from '_PyImport_DynLoadFiletab' [DataPointer] is undefined. What version of GUSI are folks using with these projects? thanks! -steve P.S. For those still reading here are the relevant snippets of code: .... class AkuaInterface(Akua_Interface_Sweets, Required_Suite.Required_Suite, \ Standard_Suite.Standard_Suite, aetools.TalkTo): """A class that can talk to Akua""" pass .... class macIR_App(FrameWork.Application): "Application class for macIR.py" .... def idle(self, event): "Idle routine - process serial events.." self.main_dialog.process() class MyDialog(FrameWork.DialogWindow): "Main dialog window for macIR" def __init__(self, parent): FrameWork.DialogWindow.__init__(self, parent) self.ctbTool = ctb.CMNew('Serial Tool', None) self.opened = 0 self.openSerial() self.talker = AkuaInterface(SIGNATURE) self.currentKeys = '' .... def process(self): """ we have time... process events...""" self.ctbTool.Idle() d, dummy = self.ctbTool.Read(1000, ctb.cmData, 1) if d: # then process the code d.... and send it to self.talker .... main() anyway.... there is a significant delay after hitting the remote and getting a keydown in the frontmost app. I'm wondering if there is any better way to get 'hit' with idle events. Any thoughts are appreciated.

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Toolbox, Quickdraw, and Python
by Scott Harris Dec. 21, 1999

Dec. 21, 1999

Does anyone have a good example of using toolbox calls with Python they can direct me to or send me? I'd like to see an example of opening a window and drawing into it with some Quickdraw routines. I've mentioned this on the group before, but my goal is to get at least a subset of QuickDraw3D working with Python. However, I'm much more interested in the number crunching my application does so I only have a moderate level of skill when it comes to the Mac toolbox and Python. Any help would be greatly appreciated! -Scott Harris

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ODP MacPython Category
by Gordon Worley Dec. 20, 1999

Dec. 20, 1999

I crated this some time ago, but the thought never entered my mind until recently that I should solicit links on this list. Well, now I am. Please go over to <http://dmoz.org/Computers/Systems/Macintosh/Development/Scripting/Python/> and add your links. The cat is looking very skimpy at the moment, so maybe everyone can help me plump it before the new year (or just whenever you feel like submiting your links to the directory). Thanks for any submitted links. I'll add them as soon as possible. - Gordon Worley http://www.crosswinds.net/~orla_redbird/ mailto:orla_redbird@crosswinds.net

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Problem with arrays of arrays
by Vincenzo Tschinke Dec. 19, 1999

Dec. 19, 1999

Hi! I am doing some basic molecular connectivity operation (graphs). Trying to convert a list of bonds (list of edges) into a connectivity table (for each vertex [atom], list of connected vertices), by filling an array of arrays, I got the right or wrong result depending on how I define the initial arrays. If I define an array of N emtpy arrays as array_of_empties = N * [[]] I get the *wrong* result. If I use the more exotic definition array_of_empties = map ( lambda x : [] , range( N )) I get the *right* result. Note that after being created, such two arrays compare as equal. Please see the listing below. Is there anything wrong with the first definition, or do we have a Python bug here? =========================================================================== Python 1.5.2b1 (#47, Jan 13 1999, 15:14:59) [CW PPC w/GUSI w/MSL] >>> ee=[[1,2],[1,3],[1,4]] # 3 edges : 3 vert. connected to centr. vertex >>> ee [[1, 2], [1, 3], [1, 4]] >>> aa=4*[[]] # array of four empty arrays >>> AA=map(lambda x : [], range(4)) # same as above >>> aa==AA # arrays are equal !!! 1 >>> for p in ee: # build table of connected verteces ... i=p[0] ... j=p[1] ... aa[i-1].append(j) ... aa[j-1].append(i) ... AA[i-1].append(j) ... AA[j-1].append(i) ... >>> aa # wrong result !!! [[2, 1, 3, 1, 4, 1], [2, 1, 3, 1, 4, 1], [2, 1, 3, 1, 4, 1], [2, 1, 3, 1, 4, 1]] >>> AA # correct result [[2, 3, 4], [1], [1], [1]] >>> aa==AA 0 >>> ======================= Vincenzo Tschinke Kernmattstr. 24 CH-4102 Binningen Switzerland +4161 422 1991 (T+F) tschinke(a)swissonline.ch =======================

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Democracy time again: StandardGetFile and friends
by Jack Jansen Dec. 17, 1999

Dec. 17, 1999

It's feedback time again! Now that I have these wonderful Navigation stuff it would be nice if all programs could use it without having to bother with the new API, and possibly even without changing a line of code, by revectoring calls to macfs.StandardGetFile and friends to the Navigation stuff (if it is available on the current machine). I see a couple of possibilities, let me know what you think: 0. Don't bother, let people rewrite their code. 1. create a Python module macfsn that contains a StandardGetFile implemented through Nav and let people change their source code a tiny little bit. 2. Like 1, but go one step further: rename macfs to _macfs and call the module from 1 macfs. Also export everything else from macfs. 3. Like 1, but put magic code in the macfs C module that will try to import the macfsn module (if Nav is available) and replace the builtin StandardGetFile with the Python one. 42. Implement all the compat code in C. (As to the numbering scheme: one-digit numbers will possibly be implemented by me, for other choices someone else will have to step in:-). -- Jack Jansen | ++++ stop the execution of Mumia Abu-Jamal ++++ Jack.Jansen(a)oratrix.com | ++++ if you agree copy these lines to your sig ++++ www.oratrix.nl/~jack | see http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/spg-l/sigaction.htm

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