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Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Re: Pythonmac-SIG digest, Vol 1 #222 - 2 msgs
by Jack Jansen Aug. 18, 1999

Aug. 18, 1999

> could anyone give me an idea on how to access the clipboard > > what I want to do is copy something to the clipboard and when I activate my > program it reads it and mods it > > > example: > > getclipboard(text) > read(text) The Scrap module is what you need. The quick way to use it is: - Putting stuff in: Scrap.ZeroScrap() Scrap.PutScrap("TEXT", "Hello World") - Getting stuff out: h = Res.Resource("") Scrap.GetScrap(h, "TEXT") print "Clipboard contains:", h.data The rather strange interface is because it is more-or-less a straight mapping of the C interface to Python. (Or, in other words, see Inside Mac for more use cases). -- Jack Jansen | ++++ stop the execution of Mumia Abu-Jamal ++++ Jack.Jansen(a)oratrix.com | ++++ if you agree copy these lines to your sig ++++ www.oratrix.nl/~jack | see http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/spg-l/sigaction.htm

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Re: Pythonmac-SIG digest, Vol 1 #222 - 2 msgs
by EuphoriaDJ Aug. 18, 1999

Aug. 18, 1999

could anyone give me an idea on how to access the clipboard what I want to do is copy something to the clipboard and when I activate my program it reads it and mods it example: getclipboard(text) read(text) that is it that is about all I want to do. PS I just came up against another wall in my python learning I never have had experience with object oreinted programing does anyone know of a book that can get me up to speed on oop? Tks An Elephant: A mouse built to government specifications Never try to out stubborn a cat Natural laws have no pity TTFN http://www.parlorcity.com/edd/index.html

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REALBasic and Python
by Pieter Claerhout Aug. 18, 1999

Aug. 18, 1999

Hello, has someone already tried using REALBasic to make a GUI to drive Python scripts? I think this would be useful because it's very easy and very quick to build an interface in REALBasic, but I find the Python language more convenient for the programs I want to write. Is it possible to connect the two?? Kind regards, Pieter Pieter Claerhout - PClaerhout(a)creo.be Response Center - Applications Support Creo Europe - Excelsiorlaan 21 - 1930 Zaventem - Belgium Tel: +32 (2) 711 14 00 - Fax: +32 (2) 720 96 71

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Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Python vs. AppleEvents
by Jack Jansen Aug. 18, 1999

Aug. 18, 1999

> I followed the example in Mac:Demo:applescript.html and used > gensuitemodule to create an Now Contact specific module. I managed to do > simple data access calls (e.g. get some > entry's name) but I haven't figured out how to do more interesting > things, e.g. count the > entries and loop over them. How about the existings suites like > Standard_Suite and > AppleScript_Suite? Some of the basic stuff you need to do this is available (see aetools.py, aetypes.py and aepack.py in Mac:Lib:lib-toolbox) but I never got around to getting the overall design done. What I'd really like, in case you're interested in giving it a try, is if you could do something like: for objspec in app.contact['all']: print "First name:" objspec.NameInfo.first_name.get() The idea begin that app.contact['all'] returns a list of object specifiers (the 'all' should probably be done differently, though), and object specifiers have a magic __getattr__ that'll return object specifiers for its elements and properties. The ComponentItem and such in aetypes.py are about as far as I got (which isn't very far). The most difficult part, I think, is to get a nice design done, the example I give above already has flaws and I don't know how to iron them out. Once the design is ready the implementation shouldn't be too much work, as it is mainly glue: the lowlevel interface is (AFAIK) complete. -- Jack Jansen | ++++ stop the execution of Mumia Abu-Jamal ++++ Jack.Jansen(a)oratrix.com | ++++ if you agree copy these lines to your sig ++++ www.oratrix.nl/~jack | see http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/spg-l/sigaction.htm

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Python vs. AppleEvents
by Malte Forkel Aug. 18, 1999

Aug. 18, 1999

Hello, I'd like to use Python and the AppleEvent interface to access the information stored in a Now Contact address file. Now Contact is a scriptable contact manager. Unfortenately, I do not have any AppleScript / AppleEvent specific experience (yet :-). I followed the example in Mac:Demo:applescript.html and used gensuitemodule to create an Now Contact specific module. I managed to do simple data access calls (e.g. get some entry's name) but I haven't figured out how to do more interesting things, e.g. count the entries and loop over them. How about the existings suites like Standard_Suite and AppleScript_Suite? Should I use those tools in Mac:Contrib, i.e. PythonScript and osam? I assume there is a convenience vs. performance tradeoff? Any suggestions and / or sample code would be highly appreciated. Malte ----------------------------------------------------------------- Malte Forkel mailto:forkel@arsnova.de Alt-Moabit 60 Phone (x49-30) 399241-0 D-10555 Berlin Fax (x49-30) 399241-22 -----------------------------------------------------------------

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MacPython source, which CodeWarrior ?
by Arnaud Masson Aug. 18, 1999

Aug. 18, 1999

Hi I have downloaded Python 1.5.1 source. The doc says the projects are for CW Pro 1 but I when I open them with Pro 1, the IDE says the projects are for a newer IDE. Which version of CW is actually required ? Also how easy it is to make an existing C++, object oriented application scriptable by an embeded python environment ? Has anyone already made that for a commercial Mac application ? I have tried the nice Python IDE that comes in with Mac Python 1.5.1. When I run some samples, IDE menus are deleted and I can't use it anymore. I must relaunch the Python IDE. What's wrong ? Is it fixed in the 1.5.2b release ? Thanks in advance. ------------------------------- Arnaud Masson Software Engineer - IoDP -------------------------------

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Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] MacPython source, which CodeWarrior ?
by Jack Jansen Aug. 17, 1999

Aug. 17, 1999

> I have downloaded Python 1.5.1 source. > The doc says the projects are for CW Pro 1 but I when I open them with Pro > 1, the IDE says the projects are for a newer IDE. > Which version of CW is actually required ? Probably CW Pro 2, then. Still, I would advise to use the 1.5.2b release, or wait a few days until 1.5.2 final is available. There is really little reason to stick with older releases once a new one is out. And Python beta releases are usually just as solid as normal releases. -- Jack Jansen | ++++ stop the execution of Mumia Abu-Jamal ++++ Jack.Jansen(a)oratrix.com | ++++ if you agree copy these lines to your sig ++++ www.oratrix.nl/~jack | see http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/spg-l/sigaction.htm

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Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Error in PyDebugger.py / bdb.py
by savageb Aug. 16, 1999

Aug. 16, 1999

> Try replacing bdb.py with the attached file. > > Just > That didn't fix it. I get the following traceback: File "bdb.py", line 248, in clear_all_file_breaks blist = Breakpoint.bplist[filename, line] or : File "bdb.py", line 223, in clear_break for bp in Breakpoint.bplist[filename, lineno][:]: depending on whether I am trying to clear all or just the single breakpoint. I am going to try a clean reinstall of Python, just to make sure I don't have something else messed up. Bob

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Templates in PythonIDE
by Pieter Claerhout Aug. 16, 1999

Aug. 16, 1999

Hi guys, I just had an idea of an addition that I would find useful to add to the PythonIDE. Can we maybe implement some sort of templates, instead of typing every standard part again and again (a bit like in Visual Basic)? I think we have to direct this question to Jack or Just?? I don't know if it's already on the to do-list for the new version?? If it already was, then just forget this mail... By the way: when will the final release of Python 1.5.2 for the mac be available (together with a new version of the IDE maybe??)?? Kind regards, Pieter Pieter Claerhout - PClaerhout(a)creo.be Response Center - Applications Support Creo Europe - Excelsiorlaan 21 - 1930 Zaventem - Belgium Tel: +32 (2) 711 14 00 - Fax: +32 (2) 720 96 71

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Acta outliner as MacPython code editor
by Jim Harrison Aug. 14, 1999

Aug. 14, 1999

The Acta outliner was a small, fast, elegant outline editor for the Mac that was in fairly wide use in the late 80's. It was one of my favorite programs at the time, but it has been out of distribution since the early 90's. It was recently released as 'Acta Classic' for free downloading by A Sharp <http://a-sharp.com/> and it is listed along with some comments on Macintouch's 'Antique Software' page <http://www.macintouch.com/earlymac.html>. This version runs just fine on current hardware and software (system 8.6). For a lark, I tried setting up a Python script in Acta. I've liked outliners as code editors since using Frontier for a while several years back. Maintaining code in an outliner helps with correct indenting and also allows collapsing or expanding of code blocks or hierarchical trees within code, so you can jump from a high level to a detailed view of code easily. Python, with its indentation-based code blocks and lack of bracket delimiters is ideal for editing by an outliner. It turns out that Acta works pretty well as a Python editor. There are limitations, of course. You must save the code from Acta as text, with no topic labels (this is easy). This places tabs in front of each line corresponding to the indentation level. These text files cannot be re-opened for editing in Acta--but they are similar to files saved from the IDE and so they can be opened and edited in the IDE. You also need to change the creator type to 'Pyth' for drag & drop to work. If Acta would read in the text files, and if it had a plugin architecture that allowed development of syntax coloring ( :-) ) and passing code to Python for execution, we'd have a really unique alternative editor. Jim Harrison ________________________________________________________________________ James H. Harrison, Jr., MD, PhD Associate Director, Division of Pathology Informatics Department of Pathology, Univ. of Pittsburgh Health System C920 PUH, 200 Lothrop Street Pittsburgh, PA 15213 jhrsn(a)pop.pitt.edu | voice: 412-647-5529 | fax: 412-647-9588 "If you want sense, you'll have to make it yourself!!"-Norton Juster ________________________________________________________________________

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