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Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] 2.0 final installer available - please test
by Jack Jansen Oct. 25, 2000

Oct. 25, 2000

> I remember reading somewhere that Numeric and other packages like Matrix or LinearAlgebra (not sure about those names) didn't work well on the Mac and some things needed to be rewritten, but weren't by the Python coders (for lack of a better name). Sounds like Numeric works. Anyone know what that deal was about? The problem was lack of time on my side. But as noone stepped in I sighed and made the time:-) -- Jack Jansen | ++++ stop the execution of Mumia Abu-Jamal ++++ Jack.Jansen(a)oratrix.com | ++++ if you agree copy these lines to your sig ++++ www.oratrix.nl/~jack | see http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/spg-l/sigaction.htm

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Re: 2.0 final installer - no problems
by Tony Vignaux Oct. 24, 2000

Oct. 24, 2000

For what it is worth, I had no problems installing Python 2.0 (and no long installation delays, either). (MacOS 8.6 on a 7220/200 Power Mac) Linear Algebra is recognised. Prof G A (Tony) Vignaux email:Tony.Vignaux@mcs.vuw.ac.nz Statistics and Operations Research, MCS, Ph: +64(4)463 5276 Victoria University, PO Box 600,Wellington. Fax: +64(4)463 5045 New Zealand Home:+64(4)934 7851 www: http://www.mcs.vuw.ac.nz/~vignaux Mobile +64 21 89 7851

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MacPython 2.0 Final
by Jacob Kaplan-Moss Oct. 24, 2000

Oct. 24, 2000

My experiences with MacPython 2.0: Installation: Installed on a G4/450. Installation took about sixty seconds, and then ConfigurePython ran for maybe another thirty. Installed on a G3/400. Installation took about two minutes, and ConfigurePython took almost fifteen, but finished successfully. Installed on a PowerComputing PowerCenter Pro 240 on an external hard drive. Installation took a minute of two, and ConfigurePython thought for about a minute before it told me that I was installing on a external drive, and asked me if I wanted PythonCore in the Extensions folder. I said yes, and it did its thing for about two more minutes, and then quit. All three installations work great. Numeric works, Tkinter "works" just as well as it did before. PythonCGISlave's problem with corrupt prefs seems to be solved. However, BuildCGIApplet bombs every time I use it with the following traceback: Traceback (most recent call last): File "1gb External HD:Jacobs Stuff Master: Programming:Python 2.0:Mac:Tools:CGI:BuildCGIApplet.py", line 76, in ? main() File "1gb External HD:Jacobs Stuff Master: Programming:Python 2.0:Mac:Tools:CGI:BuildCGIApplet.py", line 21, in main buildcgiapplet() File "1gb External HD:Jacobs Stuff Master: Programming:Python 2.0:Mac:Tools:CGI:BuildCGIApplet.py", line 54, in buildcgiapplet buildone(template, wrapper, filename, dstfilename) File "1gb External HD:Jacobs Stuff Master: Programming:Python 2.0:Mac:Tools:CGI:BuildCGIApplet.py", line 70, in buildone py_resource.frompyfile(src, "CGI_MAIN", preload=1) File "1gb external hd:jacobs stuff master: programming:python 2.0:mac:lib:py_resource.py", line 68, in frompyfile return frompycfile(file, name, preload=preload, ispackage=ispackage) File "1gb external hd:jacobs stuff master: programming:python 2.0:mac:lib:py_resource.py", line 59, in frompycfile writemodule(name, id, data, preload=preload, ispackage=ispackage) File "1gb external hd:jacobs stuff master: programming:python 2.0:mac:lib:py_resource.py", line 44, in writemodule res.AddResource(type, id, name) Mac OS Error: (-61, 'write permissions error') The resulting applet seems to work, however. All in all, a great job. Thanks a lot! Jacob Kaplan-Moss

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2.0 final installer available - please test
by Jack Jansen Oct. 24, 2000

Oct. 24, 2000

Folks, the 2.0 final installer is available in ftp://ftp.cwi.nl/pub/jack/python/mac , please try it. I'll wait announcing it until I've had a couple of reports that it looks good. -- Jack Jansen | ++++ stop the execution of Mumia Abu-Jamal ++++ Jack.Jansen(a)oratrix.com | ++++ if you agree copy these lines to your sig ++++ www.oratrix.nl/~jack | ++++ see http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/ ++++

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question about compile errors with pcc*TKLibrary
by Magladry, Stephen Oct. 23, 2000

Oct. 23, 2000

Hello, Me again. In trying to compile the ppc*TKLibrary versions 8.0.3, 8.0.5, or 8.2.1, and I run into some errors compiling tkBitmap.c. First of all, the compiler complains about #including bmp files. Secondly, there appears to be some errors around Tk_DefineBitmap with undefined variables. Each call to Tk_DefineBitmap has an undefined variable for the "bits" variable and the "width" variable. Anyone with suggestions or know what I am doing wrong? Thanks, Stephen Magladry

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questions about building.html
by Magladry, Stephen Oct. 23, 2000

Oct. 23, 2000

I am using building.html to build a version of Python. I have some question. First of all ftp.smli.com <ftp://ftp.smli.com> site appears to be dead. The only place I was able to find any versions of the mactclk-full was at ftp://ftp.scriptics.com/pub/tcl/mac/ <ftp://ftp.scriptics.com/pub/tcl/mac/> . In the Building.html document, there is reference to version 8.0p2. The oldest version I find on the ftp side is version 8.0.3. I don't think that shouldn't be a big problem. But I try to integrate the tclmods. There are two files, tclMacNodify.c and tclSelectNotify.c. The tclSelectNotify.c file is no where to be found in the source I downloaded. Could someone tell me were I might find version 8.0p2 or tell me how to rectify the tclmods, that would be much appreciated. Thanks, Stephen Magladry

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Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] 2.0 final installer available - please test
by John W Baxter Oct. 23, 2000

Oct. 23, 2000

At 10:29 +0200 10/23/00, Jack Jansen wrote: >Folks, the 2.0 final installer is available in >ftp://ftp.cwi.nl/pub/jack/python/mac , please try it. I'll wait >announcing it until I've had a couple of reports that it looks good. Installed OK here on my Mac 8100/80 running Mac OS 9.0.4 (a not entirely sane version for me to run on the 8100 ;-)). But...the installer appeared to hang in the Finishing... stage. I noticed that the hand of the watch was advancing now and then, and heard an occasional disk hit, and I had some of my morning routine to take care of, so I left it alone. The installer did finish, after about 7 minutes (estimate, might be 2 minutes high or 4 minutes low). Something NOT to do: While running the tests (two crashed for memory, which I hadn't increased, as expected), I tried to have the File Sharing control strip module start file sharing, so I could move the installer to my 7300/180. The popup menu popped up and stayed up...the mouse button indicator showed the mouse to be down...testing stopped. Force quit quit the control strip, and testing resumed and ran to completion. Note that on the 8100 I use a Kensington trackball with recent (maybe even current) software. Test is now running on the 7300, where the install went fine (no long pause noted in Finishing...). The exptected three tests failed on the 7300, even though I had increased memory to 24,000 preferred, 16,000 minimum (the minimum did not come into play). I don't have anything useful to try quickly against the new version beyond the testing. --John -- John Baxter jwblist(a)olympus.net Port Ludlow, WA, USA

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Re: Python for Mac OS X public beta
by Jack Jansen Oct. 23, 2000

Oct. 23, 2000

Folks, as the developer tools aren't available on MacOSX for mere mortals (you either have to be an apple developer to get them, or go out and find the Darwin tools and load those) could one of the people who was involved with getting Python to run on OSX whip up a binary distribution? If needed I can provide ftpspace to put it, but I don't have the time to put this thing together... -- Jack Jansen | ++++ stop the execution of Mumia Abu-Jamal ++++ Jack.Jansen(a)oratrix.com | ++++ if you agree copy these lines to your sig ++++ www.oratrix.nl/~jack | see http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/spg-l/sigaction.htm

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stackless Python
by Magladry, Stephen Oct. 20, 2000

Oct. 20, 2000

I noticed when there is a request for Stackless Python people are routed to a replacement library and not source. That leads me to believe that in order to get source and compile it, all one needs to do is download the source from stackless.com and port it to the Mac. Any big tricks or gotcha's worth mentioning? On another related note, on the stackless.com web site, there is a mention of Current Ports. Right now there is mention on Windows 98, Solaris and Palm III. Maybe we should inform them that a Mac version of it exists also to increase exposure. That's all for now, Stephen Magladry

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Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] MacPython 2.0c1 and LinearAlgebra/Matrix
by Jack Jansen Oct. 20, 2000

Oct. 20, 2000

> I think you can work around the problem by adding to sys.path: > > $(PYTHON):Extensions:Numerical:Packages:LALITE:Lib > > allows import Matrix and LinearAlgebra to work (well it seems to fix the > stuff I'm using it for). Yep, it works for those two, but not for RNG and some of the others. I've taken the plunge and added a Numerical:Lib:Packages to the distribution (and to sys.path) and put a readme in there explaining that these files are copies and the reason for them being there. I don't think I'll be doing a 2.0c2 distribution, I'll just go straight to 2.0 final, but that does mean that I would like some of the Numerically-inclined people here to try it quickly and let me know if the solution doesn't work. I'll probably announce 2.0 to the SIG first, and then wait a day for feedback before I put it on the website and make a more general announcement. By the way: does anyone have good suggestions for places where we could send the announcement, aside from comp.lang.python.announce? -- Jack Jansen | ++++ stop the execution of Mumia Abu-Jamal ++++ Jack.Jansen(a)oratrix.com | ++++ if you agree copy these lines to your sig ++++ www.oratrix.nl/~jack | see http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/spg-l/sigaction.htm

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