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Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] CVS tree
by Jack Jansen Feb. 10, 2000

Feb. 10, 2000

Recently, Rob Managan <managan(a)llnl.gov> said: > I would like to know how to build the current CVS tree. I just got a > fresh copy of both python and the Mac stuff. I end up with many > warnings as I build PythonCorePPC but one error due to a change in > MSL IO routines. Apparently MetroWerks pulled the __num_to_file > routine which GUSI uses. > > I haven't gone to the GUSI 2 yet. Is that required or is there a work > around for this?? Yes, the workaround is RTFWP (uhm... lemme look... Yes, this is actually described on http://www.cwi.nl/~jack/macpython.html;-). You should get the special GUSI mentioned on the MacPython webpage to compile the current sources (or the 1.5.2c1 sources, for that matter, if you use the current CW compiler). GUSI 2 doesn't work yet, because there are some fixes Guido should check in and he's away, and there's also still a few glitches with runtime support that we haven't figured out yet. -- Jack Jansen | ++++ stop the execution of Mumia Abu-Jamal ++++ Jack.Jansen(a)oratrix.com | ++++ if you agree copy these lines to your sig ++++ www.oratrix.nl/~jack | see http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/spg-l/sigaction.htm

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Re: python & macOS X
by Jeffrey P Shell Feb. 10, 2000

Feb. 10, 2000

> Which will be the main difficulties in compiling and installing on MacOS X the > Python system that runs on linux? I assume you mean running at the Unix level (aka Darwin). The main difficulty is that MacOS X / Darwin is too new to be recognized by the Python configuration scripts, although the notes at xclave.macnn.com (see link below) might address this issue. I can't get MacOS X DP2 and MacOS X Server happily residing on the same machine yet, so I haven't tried building on MacOS X for quite some time. I don't think there's any TKinter support either, but I may be wrong on that. But for what's been done so far on MacOS X Server, here's a few resources that I know of. See my notes at http://www.zope.org/Members/jshell/buildingZopeOnMacOSXServer (it discusses building a threaded (no problem) shared lib (small problem) on MacOS X Server - basically building a Zope friendly Python. It assumes basic knowledge of configuring Python for compilation). Or here http://xclave.macnn.com/Features/QuickNDirty/ (although they don't discuss the LDFLAGs problem when compiling shared libraries). There's an installable (no threads, no shared libs) package on Softrak http://softrak.stepwise.com/Apps/WebObjects/Softrak (search for 'Python'). -- Jeffrey P Shell, jeffrey(a)Digicool.com http://www.zope.org/

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Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] CVS tree snapshots
by Jack Jansen Feb. 10, 2000

Feb. 10, 2000

Recently, jon * <jon(a)clearink.com> said: > on 2/10/00 8:20 AM, Jack Jansen <jack(a)oratrix.nl> wrote: > > > There has been some demand for source tree snapshots without having to inst > all > > MacCVS. Now, this is technically easy: run a nightly scripts that does a cv > s > > update, stuffs the resulting directory and uploads it to an ftp server. All > > the tools involved are scriptable, so that's the "easy" bit:-) > > If someone wants to set this up on a unix box, here are my hack scripts for > java.apache.org cvs stuff... Unfortunately that won't work. At least: I _think_ it won't work, so please prove me wrong (setting this up on unix would be easy enough). The problem is the resource forks in project files and resource files. While these are extracted fine on a Macintosh I think that the files you extract on Unix are not very useful. They're some sort of macBinary format, but not really (I haven't found out what they are, it could be applesingle or some such weird format). And then you'd have to tar/gzip the result, which is a slight problem to mac users. But this is the minor problem, as Stuffit Expander with the enhanced version can expand these files (although you'll loose all creator/type info, I think). -- Jack Jansen | ++++ stop the execution of Mumia Abu-Jamal ++++ Jack.Jansen(a)oratrix.com | ++++ if you agree copy these lines to your sig ++++ www.oratrix.nl/~jack | see http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/spg-l/sigaction.htm

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Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] CVS tree snapshots
by Gordon Worley Feb. 10, 2000

Feb. 10, 2000

>>> There has been some demand for source tree snapshots without having to install MacCVS. Now, this is technically easy: run a nightly scripts that does a cvs update, stuffs the resulting directory and uploads it to an ftp server. All the tools involved are scriptable, so that's the "easy" bit:-) However, I don't have the infrastructure right now to set this up. Is there someone who is willing to do this? <<< Sorry, I can't set this up (I don't have the stuff, either). I was wondering, however, if, in addition to snapshots, could we do nightly builds? I realize that this will be about like Mozilla's nightly builds that aren't always the most reliable releases, but it would offer a way for those of use who don't have the tools for compiling MacPython to have the latest version to play with. I'm especialy think along the lines of that I keep reading on the list about new features that have been added to the CVS tree, but which I know that I have no hope of using becase, although I have MacCVS and can access the tree, that doesn't change the fact that I am unable to compile any of the code (nor do I have the knowledge to, I'll admit, because I've always been a fan of interpreted languages, which skip out on the complie and link steps). Anyway, if it is possible I think it would be nice to have. - Gordon Worley http://www.crosswinds.net/~orla_redbird/ mailto:orla_redbird@crosswinds.net

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CVS tree snapshots
by Jack Jansen Feb. 10, 2000

Feb. 10, 2000

There has been some demand for source tree snapshots without having to install MacCVS. Now, this is technically easy: run a nightly scripts that does a cvs update, stuffs the resulting directory and uploads it to an ftp server. All the tools involved are scriptable, so that's the "easy" bit:-) However, I don't have the infrastructure right now to set this up. Is there someone who is willing to do this? -- Jack Jansen | ++++ stop the execution of Mumia Abu-Jamal ++++ Jack.Jansen(a)oratrix.com | ++++ if you agree copy these lines to your sig ++++ www.oratrix.nl/~jack | see http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/spg-l/sigaction.htm

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python & macOS X
by giorgio＠dimi.uniud.it Feb. 10, 2000

Feb. 10, 2000

I've got a more detailed question regarding Python on MacOS X. We're developing an application using Python for everything except the GUI (a good exercise in embedding python!). Thus the application kernel is totally portable between mac and linux, and hopefully windows, and does not make use of anything specific to PythonMac (except for a call to PyMac_Initialize()). Which will be the main difficulties in compiling and installing on MacOS X the Python system that runs on linux? How much carbon compliant would that be? Thanks again, Giorgio Brajnik ______________________________________________________________________ Dip. di Matematica e Informatica | voice: +39 0432-55.8445 Universita` di Udine | fax: +39 0432-55.8499 Via delle Scienze, 206 | email: giorgio(a)dimi.uniud.it Loc. Rizzi -- 33100 Udine -- ITALY | http://www.dimi.uniud.it/~giorgio

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carbon compliance of python 1.5.2
by giorgio＠dimi.uniud.it Feb. 9, 2000

Feb. 9, 2000

I was wondering if python 152 is carbon compliant, and if not, what are the main reasons. And how does it run on Mac X? Thanks a lot, Giorgio Brajnik ______________________________________________________________________ Dip. di Matematica e Informatica | voice: +39 0432-55.8445 Universita` di Udine | fax: +39 0432-55.8499 Via delle Scienze, 206 | email: giorgio(a)dimi.uniud.it Loc. Rizzi -- 33100 Udine -- ITALY | http://www.dimi.uniud.it/~giorgio

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(no subject)
by Craig Hagerman Feb. 9, 2000

Feb. 9, 2000

I have written a small python script to do some automated downloading at night while I am asleep (and the phone charges are low). I am using the urllib module. A connection is initiated and then the files are downloaded to my hard drive. But then everything just waits for the PPP timeout from Apple's Remote Access in order to disconnect. Is there a way to script this part of the process as well from Python - an automatic disconnect? I haven't found any way so far. Craig Hagerman

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Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] (no subject)
by Erik van Blokland Feb. 9, 2000

Feb. 9, 2000

-- Craig Hagerman [2/9/00 12:30 PM]: > Is there a way to script this >part of the process as well from Python - an automatic disconnect? I >haven't found any way so far. I guess you could make the finder open an applescript applet that quits the connection for you. I've seen PPP versions that come with neat little applescript applets that connect and disconnect. From python you can tell the finder to open such an applet, it should execute all by itself: findertools.launch(path_to_applet) Hope this works, I don't have the PPP stuff to test it. Erik van BLokland -- letterror

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Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] What does Python/Mac need to run a program?
by Jack Jansen Feb. 9, 2000

Feb. 9, 2000

> We're developing a cross-platform Python app that will run on Mac, Windows > and Linux. We've isolated the minimal DLL's that need to be used in the > Windows environment, but are wondering what files are necessary to run a > Python application in the Mac environment. > > Is it simply the Python Core 1.5.2 system extension? If so, does the system > need to be restarted after the extension is installed? Yes, that's the only extension you need, and you don't need to restart. If you want you can use BuildApplication (on the mac only) on your app to bundle your app, PythonCore and all extension modules neded into a single mac executable. That way you also don't have to distribute the Python tree, the application will be completely self-contained. -- Jack Jansen | ++++ stop the execution of Mumia Abu-Jamal ++++ Jack.Jansen(a)oratrix.com | ++++ if you agree copy these lines to your sig ++++ www.oratrix.nl/~jack | see http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/spg-l/sigaction.htm

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