🌐 Mailman 3 June 2000 - Pythonmac-SIG - python.org

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] More Mac CGI
by Erik van Blokland Aug. 21, 2000

Aug. 21, 2000

-- Just van Rossum [3/26/00 10:24 PM]: >I've revamped PythonCGISlave.py, >and it seems to be working nicely. Unix-CGI emulations is also pretty much >done, I just need to do more tests. Or maybe I'll just post it as it is... Post it bro, I have the Mother of All Python CGI's to test it with :) Let's see if filibuster.org runs on webstar! erik -- letterror

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Python Basics
by Bob Savage July 24, 2000

July 24, 2000

on 6/23/00 11:28 AM, your friend wrote: > hi again.i cant seem to run scripts that i written.i dont have a clue what > to do to run it.im very new to programming.im just making very simple > scripts like 1+1 and stuff.its hard to find how to run srcipt for the mac on > the internet.thanx Hi. Yes, there is a shortage of information describing the differences involved in running Python on a Mac. One good place to look, though, is in the old messages of the MacPython mailing list <http://www.python.org/sigs/pythonmac-sig/>. Why don't you try this: First, open the Python 1.5.2c1 folder in the finder. There are several applications in this folder. The two main ones are PythonInterpreter, and Python IDE. PythonInterpreter is the application that is like most references on the net to using Python. Second, Launch (double-click on) the PythonInterpreter. You should get a window that looks like this: Python 1.5.2c1 (#56, Apr 12 1999, 14:19:52) [CW PPC w/GUSI w/MSL] Copyright 1991-1995 Stichting Mathematisch Centrum, Amsterdam >>> This is an interactive scripting environment, so to run the program: 1+1 all you need to do is type it in and hit enter. Third, There is an **EXCELLENT** tutorial available at: http://www.python.org/doc/current/tut/tut.html Just remember that when they talk about the Python interpreter, they are talking about having launched the PythonInterpreter application. If they talk about writing a file, and launching it on the commandline, and arguments, you can do that with the same application, but, again it is done a little differently on the Mac. Fourth, You can write a file in anything from SimpleText to ms word; just make sure you save the file in TEXT ONLY (sometimes called ASCII) format. Use the '.py' ending to the filename as they describe. To launch it drag the script that you want to run onto the PythonInterpreter icon, and let go. It works just as it would with another document that you wanted to open with a particular application on the Mac. (Fifth) However, you are liable to find that the Python IDE works better for you. It takes care of some things for you, like it includes a text file editor, but you can also have an Interpreter window open while you work on a file. This is nice for testing little snippets in the Interpreter while writing out a longer program. In fact there is even a way to run code that you select in a text file and run that immediately. *And* it can be set so that when you save the file, the finder knows that that file is to be launched with the PythonInterpreter application, so all you have to do is double-click on your file to run it. I highly recommend checking that out. Best of luck, I think you'll find learning Python to be very interesting! Bob

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Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Re: visual python
by Craig Hagerman June 30, 2000

June 30, 2000

> This was a REALbasic project called "Viper." I think Justin Christie and > Mark Adler were working on it and the web site was www.pinehillproducts.com. > The site doesn't mention the project now and it's been a good while since I > heard anything of it, so I think it's dormant. You could drop Justin a note > at justin(a)pinehillproducts.com if you wish to follow up. > I did write to Pinehill products and have had a reply from Justin Christie. My question was: >Has Viper been killed or just deeply under wraps? His response: >Deeply under wraps. :-) I guess it is just wait and see. On an unrelated note I just checked out some screen shots of the Mac port of wxWindows (http://www.advanced.ch/wxwin/wxmac/screen.htm). I CAN'T WAIT until the wxPython port for the mac is ready and I can use this. It looks wonderful! Craig Hagerman

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visual python
by Craig Hagerman June 29, 2000

June 29, 2000

Hello, I seem to recall some notice a few months back that work was underway on a "visual python" built with RealBasic (I think), which makes me think maybe it was Mac only (?). I don't recal the name of the product of where the web site was I read more info about. Am I imagining things or is there such a product? Any idea on the due date if so? Craig Hagerman

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Re: visual python
by Chris Barker June 29, 2000

June 29, 2000

> >I seem to recall some notice a few months back that work was underway on a > >"visual python" built with RealBasic (I think), which makes me think maybe > >it was Mac only (?). I don't recal the name of the product of where the web > >site was I read more info about. Am I imagining things or is there such a > >product? Any idea on the due date if so? > > "Viper" was the name, I believe, and the name of the company and > possibly website was "Viperware". I checked their site a while ago > and they had some nice screenshots but the the thing was obviously in > early stages as yet. If is was built, it _could_ be windows also, as RealBasic can build Windows executables. I don't believe you can develop with Real Basic on Windows, however, and it doesn't work on any other platforms. Besides being "Viperware", it kind of seemed like a doomed idea. Real Basic is itself an object oriented interpretted language. Adding that overhead to Python seemed a bit odd. Also, we've looked into Real Basic, and it is extendable, but it is far more awkward to extend than Python. A far more promising project is "Boa Constructor" (http://Boa-Constructor.sourceforge.net/). It is a GUI RAD (similar to Delphi, I understand) based on (and built with) Python and wxPython. It is not yet quite usable, but it is under active development, and looks very nifty. wxPython is a set of Python wrappers around wxWindows, which is a cross-platform GUI class library, that currently works for Windows, Un*x (GTK), Un*x(Motif) and Macintosh. Other platforms are und3er development as well (OS/2, BE-OS, etc). wxPython itself is currently only completely functional for Windows and Un*x-GTK, but the developer, Robin Dunn, is working on adding the Mac to the list. I quote from his web page: """ I have been getting quite a few requests for wxPython on a Mac. I have been quite eager to fulfill this request but it has been a little difficult considering I don't have a Mac. I think that Mac support will be very strategically important for wxPython. In my mind it's one of the few roadblocks for wxPython becoming the de-facto standard GUI tool for Python. Guido himself had this to say: "This is about the only cross-platform GUI toolkit that works on the Mac besides Tk (most of the new Linux offerings are "cross-platform" meaning Unix and Windows...). Please help this guy!" UPDATE:Thanks to Sam Schulenberg I now have a Mac G4 to play with. Now I just have to find the time to play. """ You heard Guido! let's help this guy!! see (http://www.wxpython.org/) for more info. I think it's very important for Python's future as a whole, and MacPython in particular, that there continues to be good Mac support for the various cross platform Python modules. I good cross-platform GUI toolkit is critical, and tk just doesn't seem to cut it. Another bonus is that if we get a Mac wxPython, we get Boa constuctor as well! I've been using wxPython on Linux for a little bit now, and I really like it. I'm hoping and praying that we'll be able to get a Mac version going. I'm hoping to help with the effort, but I'm pretty weak on the required skills at the moment. -Chris -- Christopher Barker, Ph.D. cbarker(a)jps.net --- --- --- http://www.jps.net/cbarker -----@@ -----@@ -----@@ ------@@@ ------@@@ ------@@@ Water Resources Engineering ------ @ ------ @ ------ @ Coastal and Fluvial Hydrodynamics ------- --------- -------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Python SSH2 library?
by Andrew Ptak June 28, 2000

June 28, 2000

Hello, I can't help with a python ssh implimentation, but since you are using OpenBSD, I would have though that you would also be using openssh. I have had no problems using NiftyTelnet SSH for both ssh and scp to servers running openssh (on Linux boxes). Cheers, Andy Ptak --- pythonmac-sig-request(a)python.org wrote: > Send Pythonmac-SIG mailing list submissions to > pythonmac-sig(a)python.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, > visit > > http://www.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig > or, via email, send a message with subject or body > 'help' to > pythonmac-sig-request(a)python.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > pythonmac-sig-admin(a)python.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it > is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Pythonmac-SIG digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Python SSH2 library? (Richard Gordon) > > ATTACHMENT part 3.1 message/rfc822 > Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 18:06:20 -0400 > To: Mac Python List <pythonmac-sig(a)python.org> > From: Richard Gordon <maccgi(a)bellsouth.net> > Subject: [Pythonmac-SIG] Python SSH2 library? > > I recently set up an ancient peecee as a web server > using OpenBSD 2.7 > which is pretty cool, but now I'm faced with a small > problem in that > I don't want to turn on normal ftp or telnet for > security reasons, > but have found that there is only one mac client > that actually works > with the SSH2 that OpenBSD uses (F-Secure's SSH2 for > Mac which is > $99). > > So I figured that it might be feasible to write a > spiffy little ssh > client in Python that would run on the mac if > somebody has already > put together a package or module that did most of > the dirty work, but > I can't seem to find one. Can anyone point me at > what I need? It > appears that SSH2 is becoming fairly widespread and > I'd hate to think > that Mac users are reduced to parting with a fairly > large amount of > $$ just to keep up. Thanks. > > Richard Gordon > -------------------- > Gordon Consulting & Design > Database Design/Scripting Languages > http://www.richardgordon.net > > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/

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Python SSH2 library?
by Richard Gordon June 26, 2000

June 26, 2000

I recently set up an ancient peecee as a web server using OpenBSD 2.7 which is pretty cool, but now I'm faced with a small problem in that I don't want to turn on normal ftp or telnet for security reasons, but have found that there is only one mac client that actually works with the SSH2 that OpenBSD uses (F-Secure's SSH2 for Mac which is $99). So I figured that it might be feasible to write a spiffy little ssh client in Python that would run on the mac if somebody has already put together a package or module that did most of the dirty work, but I can't seem to find one. Can anyone point me at what I need? It appears that SSH2 is becoming fairly widespread and I'd hate to think that Mac users are reduced to parting with a fairly large amount of $$ just to keep up. Thanks. Richard Gordon -------------------- Gordon Consulting & Design Database Design/Scripting Languages http://www.richardgordon.net

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Forwarded: "p rith": hello...
by Jack Jansen June 26, 2000

June 26, 2000

Can anyone help this person? I still don't have handy references for intro documents lying around, and I don't have the time the next few days to dig them out.... Thanks, Jack

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Darwin (Not Python, yet...)
by Steven D. Majewski June 24, 2000

June 24, 2000

OK -- Question first and then the report: What's the state of Python on Darwin? Any one do a build yet with X11, Tkinter, ( or WxWindows or Qt or ... )? Any tips? Darwin and OSX integration: Is this close enough to make one version (with DLLs to support all of the options, for example, if you're running Darwin, you may have X11, but you don't have Carbon, etc.) Python isn't included in Apple's Scripting CVS directory, and I don't see any links in the Darwin pages at Stepwise or elsewhere. Report: I just loaded Darwin 1.0.2 binary on my 8500 Mac at work, connected to apple's CVS server, checked in and built XFree86 (overnight!) and got it running, all with only a few hitches: 1. Although the installer seems to indicate that it will install (and erase) on a partition, it actually needs a free disk with one partition -- whenever I tried it on a one-gig partition, the installation hung up on me. 2. Read the FAQs about starting DNS. ( Other than DNS, the networking came up live -- it must have used BOOTP or DHCP to get an IP address ? ) 3. There is a binary distribution of lynx available (insert URL here...) Get it so that you can read the FAQs and mailing list archives once you've installed it and don't have you Mac's browser available. 4. You probably want to get registered on Apple's publicsource web BEFORE you install, so that you can log into the CVS server -- you'll need to keep that password. 5. The product name for checking in X is "XFree86" ( I had to use the CVS Web browser interface to find this -- one of those many things lynx came in handy for. ) setenv CVSROOT :pserver:USER@anoncvs.publicsource.apple.com:/cvs/Darwin cvs login <asks password...> cvs -z3 checkout XFree86 <cd to directory> make World <on an 8500/120, go home an get some sleep!> make install <add /usr/X11R6/bin to path> startx Reading thru the mailing list archives, I see that it's going to be impossible (right now) to boot Darwin on my 6100 at home. I'm really thinking about going out and getting an IBook real soon so I can play with this. ---| Steven D. Majewski (804-982-0831) <sdm7g(a)Virginia.EDU> |--- ---| Department of Molecular Physiology and Biological Physics |--- ---| University of Virginia Health Sciences Center |--- ---| P.O. Box 10011 Charlottesville, VA 22906-0011 |--- "There's a new programming language called C+++. It's 50% better than C++, but every time you compile, your modem hangs up."

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CodeWarrior beta program
by Jack Jansen June 23, 2000

June 23, 2000

If there are people out there who want to help with the MacOSX port of MacPython and who have CodeWarrior but who didn't get the beta copy of the CodeWarrior Carbon tools (either at wwdc or through MPTP): MetroWerks have re-opened the beta program for a while. Visit http://www.metrowerks.com/go/betaX/ to get a copy. -- Jack Jansen | ++++ stop the execution of Mumia Abu-Jamal ++++ Jack.Jansen(a)oratrix.com | ++++ if you agree copy these lines to your sig ++++ www.oratrix.nl/~jack | ++++ see http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/ ++++

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