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Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] AE quit() ?
by Jack Jansen Oct. 23, 2001

Oct. 23, 2001

Recently, "Alexandre Parenteau" <alexp(a)strata.com> said: > Jack, > > Try : > > import CodeWarrior > shell = CodeWarrior.CodeWarrior('CWIE', 1) > shell.quit() It doesn't work for me either, but at least I know who to blame:-) Apple moved open/quit/print/reopen from the required suite to the standard suite. Codewarrior extends the required suite but completely overrides the standard suite. So, technically (according to their AEUT resource) codewarrior no longer supports the quit event. Nobody in the world cares, except Python. At least, that's what I think is happening. I've added a manual patch, replace the class declaration in CodeWarrior:Standard_suite.py by from StdSuites.Standard_Suite import * class Standard_Suite_Events(Standard_Suite_Events): -- Jack Jansen | ++++ stop the execution of Mumia Abu-Jamal ++++ Jack.Jansen(a)oratrix.com | ++++ if you agree copy these lines to your sig ++++ www.cwi.nl/~jack | see http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/spg-l/sigaction.htm

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Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Tkinter on the MAC? and a Memory Error??
by Jack Jansen Oct. 23, 2001

Oct. 23, 2001

> 1. Is there a working version of Tkinter with Python for the MAC so > that the IDLE console can be used? The python version we need this to work > in is 1.5.2 due to the fact that this is the version we currently > dynamically link with from our application. If this is not possible is > there an alternative IDE for debugging scripts from within our product (so > that internal functions and variables are available). Hmm, 1.5.2 is a long time ago. I seem to remember that it was one of the releases in which Tkinter completely refused to work, but I'm not 100% sure. But: try using the IDE, the native MacPython integrated development environment. It has a much better chance of working, and i's much nicer than Idle anyway. > 2. On another note I have a script to parse source files to modify the > carriage return line feeds so that they are MAC compatible but after parsing > just over half of them I get a Memory Error, so how do I increase the Memory > for the PythonInterpreter or IDE or better how do I free/reallocate memory > within my script as I loop through the files. As soon as you clear all references to memory the memory is freed by Python. But beware of cycles (objects mutually referring to one another), these you have to break "by hand". But: MacPython 1.5.2 used a private malloc() which was a lot faster, but also tended to waste about 30% more memory. Increasing the memory for Python is the same as for other Mac applications: "get info" in the finder and increase the memory size. -- Jack Jansen | ++++ stop the execution of Mumia Abu-Jamal ++++ Jack.Jansen(a)oratrix.com | ++++ if you agree copy these lines to your sig ++++ www.cwi.nl/~jack | see http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/spg-l/sigaction.htm

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tkinter question
by Chris Scott Oct. 23, 2001

Oct. 23, 2001

Hello from a total newbie, please forgive my utter lack of knowledge at this point... I'm running Python version 2.1.1 on a G4 under system 9.0 and trying to get started using the livewire tutorials. I figured out how to get the modules to load, but they won't work. When i try to import Tkinter, I get the following error: Traceback (most recent call last): File "<stdin>", line 1, in ? ImportError: Tkinter not supported under Carbon (yet). Python help said this list was my best bet. Any ideas? Thanks. - kaffeen

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Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] AE quit() ?
by Jack Jansen Oct. 23, 2001

Oct. 23, 2001

> Hello, > > I'm trying to use the AppleEvent quit() method on CodeWarrior (or MPW) and > I'm using the latest CVS build. MacPython complains this attribute ('quit') > doesn't exist. > > Beside in fullbuild.py I found that line commented out : > > ## mgr.quit() > > Is-that a known issue/bug ? Is there a work around ? That line is commented out because I got fed up with having to wait for the CW restart on the next fullbuild run:-) I don't know of any bugs here, could you give me a stack trace of the exact error? -- Jack Jansen | ++++ stop the execution of Mumia Abu-Jamal ++++ Jack.Jansen(a)oratrix.com | ++++ if you agree copy these lines to your sig ++++ www.cwi.nl/~jack | see http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/spg-l/sigaction.htm

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Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] library file information
by Jack Jansen Oct. 23, 2001

Oct. 23, 2001

> Hey all - I know, this isn't the place to ask this, but, you've all been so > helpful that I thought I would throw this one out there. > > An associate send me a shared library (.slb file I guess) that was > integrated into an application he did. He modified the PythonCore for a > previous version of Python (no idea which version) and send me the libary to > check out. > > Unfortunately, I have no idea how to get this opened and working - as > versions 1.5 through 2.2 don't want to recognize the libary in any way. If this is a replacement PythonCore you can check which Python it is by opening the file in ResEdit or Resourcerer and inspecting the "cfrg" resource. This resource has two fields "current version" and "old version", and these are the sys.hexversion of Python. So, for Python 2.2a3 the numbers are 0x020200a3. Final builds will have an f0 in the last byte, so for Python 2.2.1 the number will be (unless I messed up;-) 0x020201f0. If the number doesn't conform to this we're talking a really old Python, before 1.5.2 (if I remember correctly). If the library is a .ppc.slb or .carbon.slb and it has the two-hands-holding-the-16-ton-weight icon there's a good chance this is a dynamic module. Put it somewhere on sys.path and try to import it. If it's built for a different version of Python you'll get an error message to this effect, something about a newer or older version of a pef container. If it's a straight .slb and/or doesn't have the python icon it might still be a dynamic module, but the chances are slim. Still: why not try importing it. If it is called "foo.slb" and "import foo" gives an ImportError with a message like "Symbol initfoo not found" then it isn't a Python module after all. In that case it is a general shared library, and if this is the only thing your friend sent you you're missing some parts (the dynamic module that would connect Python to the shared library). -- Jack Jansen | ++++ stop the execution of Mumia Abu-Jamal ++++ Jack.Jansen(a)oratrix.com | ++++ if you agree copy these lines to your sig ++++ www.cwi.nl/~jack | see http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/spg-l/sigaction.htm

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Tkinter on the MAC? and a Memory Error??
by Tim Parker Oct. 23, 2001

Oct. 23, 2001

Hi, I have a couple of questions: 1. Is there a working version of Tkinter with Python for the MAC so that the IDLE console can be used? The python version we need this to work in is 1.5.2 due to the fact that this is the version we currently dynamically link with from our application. If this is not possible is there an alternative IDE for debugging scripts from within our product (so that internal functions and variables are available). 2. On another note I have a script to parse source files to modify the carriage return line feeds so that they are MAC compatible but after parsing just over half of them I get a Memory Error, so how do I increase the Memory for the PythonInterpreter or IDE or better how do I free/reallocate memory within my script as I loop through the files. Thanks in advance Tim Parker _____________________________________________________________________ This message has been checked for all known viruses by UUNET delivered through the MessageLabs Virus Control Centre. For further information visit http://www.uk.uu.net/products/security/virus/

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library file information
by Jon Bradley Oct. 22, 2001

Oct. 22, 2001

Hey all - I know, this isn't the place to ask this, but, you've all been so helpful that I thought I would throw this one out there. An associate send me a shared library (.slb file I guess) that was integrated into an application he did. He modified the PythonCore for a previous version of Python (no idea which version) and send me the libary to check out. Unfortunately, I have no idea how to get this opened and working - as versions 1.5 through 2.2 don't want to recognize the libary in any way. I've tried putting it in all sorts of places - including replacing my core library with this one and also putting it in the extension folder. My associate is on vacation and I won't be able to get in touch with him for a few weeks - so if anyone is able to offer up some suggestions, I would be very appreciative. Basically, I want to be able to view the modules, attributes and strucutre of this library. Thanks in advance... Jon Bradley Multimedia Developer jbradley(a)whiplashmedia.com

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AE quit() ?
by Alexandre Parenteau Oct. 22, 2001

Oct. 22, 2001

Hello, I'm trying to use the AppleEvent quit() method on CodeWarrior (or MPW) and I'm using the latest CVS build. MacPython complains this attribute ('quit') doesn't exist. Beside in fullbuild.py I found that line commented out : ## mgr.quit() Is-that a known issue/bug ? Is there a work around ? Thanks, Alex.

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wxPython
by Karl G. Merkley Oct. 22, 2001

Oct. 22, 2001

What is the status of wxPython for the Mac? Will it play nicely with the IDE? Thanks for the update, Karl

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Urllib
by Yair Benita Oct. 22, 2001

Oct. 22, 2001

Hi all, When I use urlopen and read a file from the net I get a partial file. Is there an easy way to know when the url has finished loaded before I try to read it? Thanks, Yair -- Yair Benita Pharmaceutical Proteomics Utrecht University

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