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Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Fwd: configure.in syntax to find python binary during build...
by Jack Jansen Sept. 4, 2001

Sept. 4, 2001

Recently, Steve Spicklemire <steve(a)spvi.com> said: > > I'd like to modify configure.in for building Python on darwin. The > > current configure.in uses "-undefined suppress" for generating shared > > libs, and this get's a little tricky in later versions of darwin. Note that "-undefined suppress" is only used if you don't "--enable-framework". If you're doing a framework build then the loader does know of all the externals (as they're in the Python framework). > > I > > snooped around on the darwin mailing list(s) and someone pointed me in > > the direction of "-bundle_loader" which tells ld where to find symbols > > that the library needs to have from the loading binary. Anyway.. since > > I choose '.exe' as the --with-suffix then my python binary turns out to > > be "python.exe" so this works for me in 'configure': > > > > Darwin/*|next/*) > > if test "$ns_dyld" > > then LDSHARED='$(CC) $(LDFLAGS) -bundle -bundle_loader > > python.exe' > > else LDSHARED='$(CC) $(CFLAGS) -nostdlib -r'; > > fi $(PYTHON) is what you're looking for. (Now you're probably saying, "ah...":-) However, I have a question about the -bundle_loader: is it also supported under 10.0.4 and earlier (not running OSX at the moment, so can't check myself)? If it isn't you should make this dependent on the Darwin version. And something else: as I see the Darwin/*|next/* in your code: you're probably using an older release of Python than 2.2a2. I would suggest you upgrade, as a lot of things related to dynamic loading have changed. And finally: if you have a patch relative to the current CVS sources (or 2.2a2, that's good enough, I guess) please put it in the sourceforge patch manager. You can assign it to me and I'll check it in. > > However.. someone else might choose a different suffix, and when > > building shared modules in other directories I'm thinking that you may > > need a full path to the python binary for this to work. Long story > > short: How to you spell "Path to the installed binary of python" in > > configure.in so that I can modify it for newer versions of darwin? Hmm, that's a more difficult problem. Because LDSHARED can be used in two circumstances: - During the build, when python.exe (or whatever) is in the current directory (and not in the installed directory yet) - Later, during distutils-based extension building, when python.exe is installed (and you don't know where the build directory is anymore). I don't see a solution for this (except for switching to frameworks, which don't have the problem). -- Jack Jansen | ++++ stop the execution of Mumia Abu-Jamal ++++ Jack.Jansen(a)oratrix.com | ++++ if you agree copy these lines to your sig ++++ www.cwi.nl/~jack | see http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/spg-l/sigaction.htm

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Fwd: configure.in syntax to find python binary during build...
by Steve Spicklemire Sept. 1, 2001

Sept. 1, 2001

Hi Py-Mac folks, I tried this on the Python list, but no luck. In my eternal search for ways to avoid any *real* work, I thought I'd better at least try here, lest I have to actually figure out autoconf on my own! ;-) thanks, -steve Begin forwarded message: > From: Steve Spicklemire <steve(a)spvi.com> > Date: Tue Aug 28, 2001 09:32:55 AM America/Indianapolis > To: python-list(a)python.org > Cc: steve(a)spvi.com > Subject: configure.in syntax to find python binary during build... > > > Hi Python Folk, > > I'd like to modify configure.in for building Python on darwin. The > current configure.in uses "-undefined suppress" for generating shared > libs, and this get's a little tricky in later versions of darwin. I > snooped around on the darwin mailing list(s) and someone pointed me in > the direction of "-bundle_loader" which tells ld where to find symbols > that the library needs to have from the loading binary. Anyway.. since > I choose '.exe' as the --with-suffix then my python binary turns out to > be "python.exe" so this works for me in 'configure': > > Darwin/*|next/*) > if test "$ns_dyld" > then LDSHARED='$(CC) $(LDFLAGS) -bundle -bundle_loader > python.exe' > else LDSHARED='$(CC) $(CFLAGS) -nostdlib -r'; > fi > > However.. someone else might choose a different suffix, and when > building shared modules in other directories I'm thinking that you may > need a full path to the python binary for this to work. Long story > short: How to you spell "Path to the installed binary of python" in > configure.in so that I can modify it for newer versions of darwin? > > thanks! > -steve

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change
by mcclenon Sept. 1, 2001

Sept. 1, 2001

Please change my email address to mcclenon(a)adelphia.net pythonmac-sig-request(a)python.org wrote: > Send Pythonmac-SIG mailing list submissions to > pythonmac-sig(a)python.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > pythonmac-sig-request(a)python.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > pythonmac-sig-admin(a)python.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Pythonmac-SIG digest..." > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Carbon events (Just van Rossum) > 2. Re: Carbon events (Paul Miller) > 3. Re: Carbon events (Doug Wyatt) > 4. Re: Announce: PythonCard 0.3.1 - need wxPython on > the Mac (Joel Bender) > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Carbon events > Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 18:01:25 +0200 > From: Just van Rossum <just(a)letterror.com> > To: Doug Wyatt <dwyatt(a)apple.com> > CC: Pythonmac-SIG(a)python.org > > Doug Wyatt wrote: > > > /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/HIToolbox. > > framework/Versions/A/Headers/CarbonEvents.h > > > > but you'd just #include <Carbon/Carbon.h> > > Is it not available under OS9? (I do have a machine running OSX, I'm just > wondering.) > > Just > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Carbon events > Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 17:26:18 +0100 > From: Paul Miller <paulm(a)avacadcam.com> > To: Just van Rossum <just(a)letterror.com> > CC: <Pythonmac-SIG(a)python.org> > > >> /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/HIToolbox. > >> framework/Versions/A/Headers/CarbonEvents.h > >> > >> but you'd just #include <Carbon/Carbon.h> > > > > Is it not available under OS9? (I do have a machine running OSX, I'm just > > wondering.) > > > Yes it is (from Carbon 1.2.5 onwards) - but you'll need to update to a later > version of Universal Headers than the ones in CW Pro 6. Use the ones in the > latest Carbon SDK. > > Paul Miller. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Carbon events > Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 09:33:39 -0700 > From: Doug Wyatt <dwyatt(a)apple.com> > To: Just van Rossum <just(a)letterror.com> > CC: Pythonmac-SIG(a)python.org > > On Tuesday, August 14, 2001, at 09:01 , Just van Rossum wrote: > > Doug Wyatt wrote: > > > >> /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/HIToolbox. > >> framework/Versions/A/Headers/CarbonEvents.h > >> > >> but you'd just #include <Carbon/Carbon.h> > > > > Is it not available under OS9? (I do have a machine running OSX, I'm > > just > > wondering.) > > Hmm, the afore-mentioned header says the functions are available under 9 > with CarbonLib. > > Perhaps you need to have a separately downloaded Carbon SDK installed? > Please forgive my ignorance, I haven't done any development on 9 or with > CoreWarrior in about 18 months now. > > I thought of another possible approach, which would be to run a separate > cooperative (not preemptive) thread to do window refreshes and whatever > other limited set of tasks can be safely serviced while blocked on I/O > (watching for cancellation clicks/keys?), and then just use synchronous > I/O in the main thread. > > Doug > > -- > Doug Wyatt > work: dwyatt(a)apple.com (CoreAudio) > personal: doug(a)sonosphere.com http://www.sonosphere.com > > "Changing OS's is the corporate equivalent of molting -- you're very > vulnerable after you've done it but you have to do it to survive". > -- Ray Spears > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Announce: PythonCard 0.3.1 - need wxPython on > the Mac > Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 15:12:11 -0400 > From: Joel Bender <jjb5(a)cornell.edu> > To: pythonmac-sig(a)python.org > > Joe Graham wrote: > > >However in the spirit of changing gears, has anyone > >looked at the latest Qt Mac beta from trolltech? > > Is there a way to purchase an <n> developers copy from them for the > purpose of developing PythonCard? $2925 is too rich for me (assuming > that a dual platform price will be the same for Qt/Unix and Qt/Mac). > > There are GUI projects that are built on OpenGL, perhaps PythonCard > can follow this direction? Can anyone with OpenGL experience on the > Mac speak to how easy it is/could be to keep an OpenGL engine cross > platform? > > Joel > > --

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Pythonica (symbolic algebra)
by Christopher Smith Sept. 1, 2001

Sept. 1, 2001

joe(a)strout.net writes: >At 9:29 AM -0500 8/30/01, Christopher Smith wrote: > >>I've been looking for something like Pythonica...glad I found it! >>Thanks for the work that you've done on this. A few comments >>about it and some bugs have been made on the tutor list: >> >>http://mail.python.org/pipermail/tutor/2001-August/subject.html >> >>Look for the subject line containing "algebraic". > >OK. Please feel free to add to this discussion that I don't use >Python much any more, and am looking for someone to take over >maintenance of Pythonica (including fixing those known bugs). It looks like you had made some significant progress on Python and provided some useful tools (I am using the patched editor, for example). Thank you. Do you have a list of errors that have been reported for Pythonica? I passed along your comments to the tutor and mac lists. /c

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