🌐 Mailman 3 February 2002 - Pythonmac-SIG - python.org

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] ObjC stuff
by Jack Jansen March 20, 2003

March 20, 2003

Recently, Steve Spicklemire <steve(a)spvi.com> said: > So it's in CVS somewhere? I'll do a check-out and see if I can find it. I don't know, Steven Majewski may know (I think he is the one who looked at it). If it isn't in the repository it probably should be, preferrably in the Modules directory (because it is useful for non-Mac users) but if there's objections against that we'll put it in the Mac/Modules dir. > I just ordered CW-6 today so I might be able to pitch in a bit. While very useful for other things (like MacPython development) you don't need it for OSX unix-Python development: this is all make and gcc-based (and you have those on your OSX developer disc). -- Jack Jansen | ++++ stop the execution of Mumia Abu-Jamal ++++ Jack.Jansen(a)oratrix.com | ++++ if you agree copy these lines to your sig ++++ www.oratrix.nl/~jack | see http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/spg-l/sigaction.htm

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Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] more on MacPython/OSX/shared lib
by Jack Jansen Aug. 14, 2002

Aug. 14, 2002

Recently, Paul Miller <paul(a)fxtech.com> said: > >My next step is to remove all my Python code and see if I get the error > >without linking against Python. > > Back to square 1 for me. I removed the Python lib and all my Python code > and I have the same problem. It must be something in global initialization > in my own code. For yucks I disabled the __initialize and __terminate entry > points in the linker options and I ended up with an assert in my code > (which was expecting the static initializations to happen). Hmm, my guess would be either a bug in CodeWarrior, or (probably more likely) you using the wrong runtime library. Especially if you use C++ you have to be careful with which runtime library you use where, because the zero-overhead exception handling will fail otherwise. And you shouldn't use Python as an example, because it doesn't follow the rules (but gets away with it being a C program). You might want to spell out the MW Targeting MacOS manual. -- Jack Jansen | ++++ stop the execution of Mumia Abu-Jamal ++++ Jack.Jansen(a)oratrix.com | ++++ if you agree copy these lines to your sig ++++ www.cwi.nl/~jack | see http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/spg-l/sigaction.htm

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Speed issues with Applet/Applications?
by Sean Hummel April 12, 2002

April 12, 2002

Hi, I wrote a script which allows me to decompress from a .ZIP file, and appropriately sizing names of files that are longer than 31 characters. However the problem I am encountering, is that when I run the script in the Python IDE, it runs at full speed. When I run the script as a standalone application or applet, then it runs VERY SLOW! I am using Python 2.1, and I am using running this script on a PowerG4. So I am wondering if someone else has had this problem when using the application or applet, and/or if there is a good solution to this problem.

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Fwd: Apple Design Awards Update: Open Source Category
by Jack Jansen April 3, 2002

April 3, 2002

Folks, Apple have just added a category "best open source product" to their yearly design awards. How about giving it a go and trying to win that award with Python? We have until April 5 to enter, which gives us almost 6 weeks. The question is: what would we need (that we don't have yet) to win, and can we do that in 6 weeks? Here's my list of things we definitely need: - The IDE (no idea how far along that is) - The OSA component (no idea how easy this would be to integrate. Actually, I have for the second time forgotten who did this! Sorry, please speak up!) - universal newline support (should be trivial to drop in) - Bells and whistles, such as BuildApplet, EditPythonPrefs and BuildApplication (but these should probably be built in to the IDE, not as separate apps) - A nice installer that also installs the /usr/local/bin symlinks for unix to use, etc. - Packaged documentation, preferably in a form that Apple Help can read (plus hooks in the IDE to get at the docs). - Consensus on how we're going to split the dual G4 we're going to win:-) I think what would make this a potential winner is that it covers three programming areas (unix scripts and CGI, Applescripting, standalone Mac development) and that it is the only tool that does all three. All competing languages cover only one or at most 2 of these areas (Perl: 1, Applescript: 23, Tcl/Tk: 13, Java: 13). Begin forwarded message: > From: Apple Developer Connection <noreply(a)adc.apple.com> > Date: Thu Feb 21, 2002 09:51:06 Europe/Amsterdam > To: undisclosed-recipients: ; > Subject: Apple Design Awards Update: Open Source Category > Reply-To: Apple Developer Connection <noreply(a)adc.apple.com> > > > Dear Developer, > > We have great news! In response to the popularity of Mac OS X with > the open source community, Apple is pleased to announce an > additional category for the Seventh Annual Apple Design Awards: Best > Mac OS X Open Source Port. In addition, we are now accepting both > individual and collaborative entries. > > We invite you to take a look at the updated rules and prize > information and submit your product for consideration. The winners > will be announced at a special Apple Design Awards ceremony during > Apple's Worldwide Developers Conference in San Jose, California > during the week of May 6-10, 2002. > > If you have already submitted a product for consideration in the > Seventh Annual Apple Design Awards, you will be contacted separately > with information on updating your submission. > > ================================== > COMPANY/INDIVIDUAL DEVELOPERS > ================================== > A company or individual developer may submit a product to be > considered for the following categories: > > * Best New Mac OS X Product > * Most Innovative Mac OS X Product > * Best Mac OS X User Experience > * Best Mac OS X Technology Adoption > * Best Mac OS X Open Source Port > > Individual developers may also submit a product collaboratively > (please see entry form for specific requirements and award > guidelines related to joint entries). > > Winners in each of the above categories receive an "Ultimate" Power > Mac G4 system with an Apple Cinema Display (22" flat panel). > > Please note that all company/individual developer entries are due by > Friday, April 5, 2002. You may submit your entry form today at > <http://developer.apple.com/designawards/>. > > ================================== > STUDENT DEVELOPERS > ================================== > Student developers may submit a product developed either > individually or collaboratively for the category of: > > * Best Mac OS X Student Product > > The winner of the Best Mac OS X Student Product award will receive > an "Ultimate" PowerBook system and a paid trip to Apple's Worldwide > Developers Conference (WWDC), which will be held May 6-10 in San > Jose, California. (Please see entry form for specific requirements > and award guidelines related to joint entries.) > > Please note that all Student Developer entries are due by Friday, > March 1, 2002. You may submit your entry form today at > <http://developer.apple.com/designawards/>. > > ================================== > DETAILS > ================================== > Don't miss this chance to show off your Mac OS X product and win > some great hardware. Visit > <http://developer.apple.com/designawards/> for official contest > rules and entry forms. If you have additional questions not > answered by the official contest rules, please contact us via email > at <http://developer.apple.com/designawards/faq.html>. > > > Best regards, > > > Apple Developer Connection > -- - Jack Jansen <Jack.Jansen(a)oratrix.com> http://www.cwi.nl/~jack - - If I can't dance I don't want to be part of your revolution -- Emma Goldman -

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Tkinter on OS X
by Johann Hibschman March 18, 2002

March 18, 2002

Hi folks, I've been trying to get tkinter to compile on OS X, using some of the hints that went by here in December, using the Tcl/Tk frameworks that recently came out. However, I can't get them to compile, since they look for the X11 header files, and I don't seem to have them anywhere, since I don't have X11 installed. I don't understand why Mac OSX Tcl/Tk would need the X11 headers, so I'm suspecting that something is mis-configured. Can anyone shed some light on this? Cheers, --Johann -- Johann Hibschman jhibschman(a)yahoo.com -- Johann Hibschman jhibschman(a)yahoo.com

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2.2.1 and Waste
by Jack Jansen Feb. 28, 2002

Feb. 28, 2002

Folks, I'm about 90% done for 2.2.1, there's one issue left that I want your feedback on. I've included the new versions of most toolbox modules, since they appear fully backward compatible (i.e. I count on you all to download the 2.2.1 alfa or FC or whatever it's going to be called) and there's exciting new stuff in there (Carbon scrap manager, finally, and unicde support for CFStrings, to name two) and the current version of the IDE uses the new stuff and looks a lot better on OSX. One thing that I'm not sure about, however, is Waste. If I could use the current waste this would mean that enabling waste on OSX MachoPython would allow you to play with the IDE in MachoPython. It sort-of runs. But, as Waste is an external package, this may compromise backward compatibility, and micro-releases are supposed to be 100% backward compatible. The new waste is compatible with IDE, so there's really no reason to believe there will be any problems here, but still: if you use waste either tell me not to update it, or please make sure to download the 2.2.1 alfa and test your application. And if you're going to tell me not to update please do it soon or you'll be too late:-) -- - Jack Jansen <Jack.Jansen(a)oratrix.com> http://www.cwi.nl/~jack - - If I can't dance I don't want to be part of your revolution -- Emma Goldman -

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Newbie question GetIndString
by Daniel T. Feb. 28, 2002

Feb. 28, 2002

I cant figure out what I need to import in order to use GetIndString. Is there a module that already has the StringUtils stuff in it? --

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Question about old software
by Josh English Feb. 27, 2002

Feb. 27, 2002

I have one of those annoying "I'm stuck in history and need help questions." I am working on a website for my church that already uses cgi and I want to spice it up a bit and make the cgi a larger part of the site to make inquiries about an event database on several pages. The host provider has Python 1.5 avaialable for cgi scripts. I have inquired about their upgrading but I am not optimistic on this point. I think it would be an easy thing to do on their side, but I don't think they will. Anyway, I back to python 1.5.2 working out the scripts and I would like to test them using Apple's Personal Web Server on OS9.1. There is an html file in the 1.5 distribution that makes reference to mkapplet, which I can't find in the distribution. Does someone have an old copy they could forward me or tell me where to find it? A few web searches have prooved fruitless. Thanks for any help, Josh English english(a)spiritone.com http://www.spiritone.com/~english

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Installing Pyfort into MacPython
by Samuel H. Dupree, Jr. Feb. 27, 2002

Feb. 27, 2002

Greetings, I'm interested in installing the Pyfort interface tool into MacPython. Being new to Python, it wasn't clear to me just how one either installs of updates a package in MacPython version 2.2. If spomeone would point me to the documentation or to someone who has installed Pyfort into MacPython, I'd appreciate it. Looking forward to hearing from you. Sam Dupree. P.S. - BTW I'm running Absoft's Pro Fortran version 7.0 under Mac OS 9.1 on a PowerComputing PowerTower Pro 225, and as I've said before, I'm new to MacPython. -- ============================================================================ Samuel H. Dupree, Jr. sdupree(a)speakeasy.net 600 West Harvey St., Apt A-703 Philadelphia, PA 19144, USA http://www.speakeasy.net/~sdupree/ HOME: (215) 842-3663 WORK: (610) 531-7994 FAX: (610) 531-3145 "What does it take to travel in space? The will to do it." - Dr. Wernher von Braun ============================================================================

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PIL problem: conflict between _imagingtk & _tkinter
by Jinfeng Liu Feb. 26, 2002

Feb. 26, 2002

Hi everyone. I'm a new comer. I'm using PIL and need the ImageTk interface. Due to some kind of name space conflict, python crashes: dyld: python multiple definitions of symbol _TclAccess /usr/local/lib/python2.2/lib-dynload/_tkinter.so definition of _TclAccess /usr/local/lib/python2.2/site-packages/PIL/_imagingtk.so definition of _TclAccess I got this problem previously using python2.2b1. Now I'm using python2.2. The problem is still there but python interpretor doesn't crash. Instead it always refuses to load the 2nd module: >>> import _tkinter >>> import _imagingtk Traceback (most recent call last): File "<stdin>", line 1, in ? ImportError: Failure linking new module I'm using python2.2 Tcl/Tk 8.4a3, PIL 1.1.2, GCC2.95.2 on OS X 10.1. The same problem also appeared with python2.1. Does anyone have ideas how to fix it? Thanks. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Greetings - Send FREE e-cards for every occasion! http://greetings.yahoo.com

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