🌐 Mailman 3 May 2002 - Pythonmac-SIG - python.org

PyOpenGL on Mac OS Classic, anyone?
by Andrew Straw May 23, 2002

May 23, 2002

Does anyone have PyOpenGL running on Mac OS Classic?

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PIL 1.1.3 on MacPython (OSX)?
by David Eppstein May 22, 2002

May 22, 2002

Does anyone have a precompiled copy of the 1.1.3 version of the Python Imaging Library for MacPython? Failing that, is it possible to build from source using only the free OS X developer toolkit? I'm getting tired of the regexp deprecation warnings from the older versions and would like to use some of the new image filtering features. Please copy me on any replies as I do not read this group regularly. -- David Eppstein UC Irvine Dept. of Information & Computer Science eppstein(a)ics.uci.edu http://www.ics.uci.edu/~eppstein/

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Re: Which Python for my New mac?
by Russell E Owen May 21, 2002

May 21, 2002

Israel Evans <israel(a)lith.com> asked which python to use for a new Mac. If you wish to use Tkinter under MacOS X (or wish to use a Tkinter that is really solid) then you have no choice. You must use Macho-python and an X server (xfree-86/darwin being quite common). You can install these yourself, or if you prefer to have someone else do the building for you, you can install them via fink, a free unix software installer for MacOS X. One caveat: last I checked, the window manager installed by fink didn't work, causing darwin to not start up properly. If that happens to you, the solution is simple: install OroborosX when you are done installing the fink stuff. X is a bit clumsy by comparison to the Mac's usual user interface, but it works fine. If you don't wish to program GUI stuff (or perhaps if you want to do it in a Mac-specific way and learn the tools used by the MacPython IDE), then the Mac version is probably your best bet. It is easy to install, accepts source files with \r (Mac) and \n (unix) line endings and has a nice IDE included. Both work very well. -- Russell

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Which Python for my New mac?
by Israel Evans May 20, 2002

May 20, 2002

Hey there people! I'm going to be buying a new TiBook very shortly and will be coming over to the Apple Camp, at least when I'm at home. I've been reading about python on the mac and I'm a little confused on which version I should try. I mostly use Python on Windows and Linux (a little), doing stuff like web development with WebKit and otherwise just playing around with this fun language. I'm an artist by avocation and have just been getting into programming this past year. From what I understand, there is the Macho python which lives in command line land and isn't too friendly with gui stuff unless you are willing to set up an x server. There is also supposed to be the MacPython by Jack that comes with all sorts of mac specific os extensions and stuff. Which Python should I look into using and why is one better? I've heard that the path for macpython is one that ends in the unification of the unix and macpythons with no loss of functionality. How far along is that? Will I miss anything by using the macpython? I wouldn't think so by the great stuff I've heard about Jack and Co's work, but hey I'm kind of new and ignorant. Thanks! ~Israel~

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Python defaulting as a framework for OSX/Mach-O
by Alexandre Parenteau May 20, 2002

May 20, 2002

Folks, The primary reason of my email is to push for defaulting the compilation of Python-Mach-O as a framework, so application on OSX can embed Python easily. It would be nice also to provide an installer of Python this way. In the current MacCvs CVS (cvsgui on SourceForge), I have now a MacCvsX (Mach-O) loading dynamically Python (Mach-O) to handle the Macros of MacCvsX. Previously the same thing was working in CFM with MacCvs (CFM) and MacPython (CFM). The step is important for me : I can check-out Python code using OpenSSH, with Unix line feed, ISO text encoding, cvs-MachO spawned by MacCvsX. All is now functional under Mach-O. I can compile the Mach-O and CFM Python with the same sandbox (one using gcc, the other one CodeWarrior), which is even better. So except for CodeWarrior, I never quit Mach-O for the whole process. [I guess some still wonder why I want so much to use Mach-O and not CFM, that is because under CFM you don't have a good PosIX layer, only an emulation named "GUSI"] But using Mach-O/OSX you are more or less required to use the Frameworks mechanism for dynamic loading Python (I didn't find a way to deal with dlopen, I suspect only .so object can be loaded thru this mechanism). So what prevent from defaulting to Framework and distributing it this way ? I guess it has some impacts on distutils. Is that working with Python installed as a Framework (I never tried ) ? I wanted also to point out that people who want to embed dynamically Python in either a Classic, CFM-Carbon, Mach-O-Carbon or Win32 platform can find a complete example inside the MacCvs/WinCvs source code. Regards, Alex. -- Alexandre Parenteau Computer Scientist Core Technologies, AGM Adobe Systems, Inc. 408-536-6166

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Re: [wxPython-mac] MachoPython eats Ctrl-C?
by Jack Jansen May 17, 2002

May 17, 2002

On woensdag, mei 15, 2002, at 11:54 , Robin Dunn wrote: > Jack, > > Is there something in MachoPython that will prevent Ctrl-C from > being sent > to a window as an an event? I noticed while working on wxSTC > that I can get > EVT_KEY_DOWN events for other Ctrl keys, but not Ctrl-C so I > thought that > maybe Python is trying to catch it to turn it into a KeyboardInterrupt > exception. But I'm not getting the exception either... MachoPython doesn't do any event handling (except the initial decoding of the AppleEvent that started Python.app to get at the file being run). But I've also noticed that Control-C is equivalent to Command-. in many circumstances (not related to Python), so I think some lowlevel component of the system treats them as identical. If this behaviour can be disabled I would guess it will be through the Carbon Event Manager, so maybe you should start looking there. And please let me know if you find something:-) -- - Jack Jansen <Jack.Jansen(a)oratrix.com> http://www.cwi.nl/~jack - - If I can't dance I don't want to be part of your revolution -- Emma Goldman -

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RE: [Pythonmac-SIG] New Python IDE for OS X
by SNYDER, BARRON F (AIT) May 12, 2002

May 12, 2002

You may be correct in the strict sense of "OS X application" but this is the first vendor I've seen that says they will support OS X. With the others, it's "if you can get it to work on OS X, great, but we won't support it". -Barron -----Original Message----- From: Bob Ippolito Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 3:39 PM To: SNYDER, BARRON F (AIT) Cc: pythonmac-sig(a)python.org Subject: Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] New Python IDE for OS X Any Python IDE that works under X11, so long as it's endian safe, is going to work perfectly fine under OS X if you make XDarwin a requirement. What's the point? It's not going to look or feel quite like an OS X application, it shouldn't really be called an OS X application with a disclaimer that it requires an X11 subsystem to make it tick. On Friday, May 10, 2002, at 03:57 PM, SNYDER, BARRON F (AIT) wrote: > > For those of you looking for a Python IDE that runs under OS X, > Archaeopteryx just released a beta of their Wing IDE for OS X. Take a > look > at http://archaeopteryx.com/psupport/prerelease/osx/osx-beta.html for > more > info. I downloaded it and it looks pretty good.

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Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] New Python IDE for OS X
by Donovan Preston May 11, 2002

May 11, 2002

On Saturday, May 11, 2002, at 12:09 PM, Bob Ippolito wrote: > I'm 99% sure that it does run *natively* in OS X. The caveat is that > it's developed using a bunch of CodeWarrior/Carbon specific stuff and > doesn't look like it's going to make it into machopython anytime soon > (possibly anytime at all). The MacPython IDE runs just fine under Mach-O Python. Basically, it just involves taking the Python.app and sticking PythonIDE.py in it and renaming it to __main__.py. Of course it's not as simple as that, you need to make sure all your dependencies are in place, but I could whip up a quick step-by-step HOWTO. BTW, the dependencies are WASTE (There's instructions for building WASTE in the Mac/OSX/README I believe), making sure Mac/Tools/IDE is on your path, and making sure that python.rsrc is in the bundle's Contents/Resources (I think it's python.rsrc, it might be one of the other rsrc files) When I find some time I'll write some step-by-step instructions for checking out from CVS and getting MacPython IDE running. Donovan

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Beta-testers wanted for ReportLab PageCatcher OS X Aqua proto-interface
by Dinu Gherman May 11, 2002

May 11, 2002

Hi, I've been playing a while with Aqua interfaces to Python command-line tools and would like to know if there is anybody here interested in beta- testing one specific frontend I made for a ReportLab (Python) product named PageCatcher? For those who don't know it: it basically lets you reuse PDF documents on a page level. But you can find more info here: http://www.reportlab.com/pageCatcher/index.html The frontend thing does only two things so far: 1) it concatenates any number of PDF files into one new file and 2) it splits any multi-page PDF file into many one page PDF files. Here is a screenshot: http://www.reportlab.com/ftp/incoming/pcgui0.jpg So far, this is a demo and does not include a license for the PageCatcher backend, but it is intended to make that "very cheap" as a non-server, GUI tool, and more functionality can easily be added to it, but the final interface might change a bit. If anybody is interested in testing a bit and making suggestions, please email me! Regards, Dinu PS: This will work only with Python 2.2 installed in /usr/local and a version of the ReportLab toolkit. -- Dinu C. Gherman ReportLab Consultant .......................................................................... http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/americas/newsid_1961000/1961476.stm

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Method to lock/unlock files
by Mike Nardell May 10, 2002

May 10, 2002

I would like to know if there is a method in Python to unlock/lock files (so they can be protected) on a Mac running on OS 8.6 or 9. Ideally I would like a cross platform solution. It seems that the calls to do things like change mode are not implemented in MacPython. I have looked at some of the modules particular to the Mac. It looks like the Carbon.Res would do what I want, I just can't seem to find any documentation on all of the Carbon stuff. I have looked around at some other mac modules, and not been successful. I look forward to being a part of the Python community! Thanks! Michael

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