🌐 Mailman 3 June 2002 - Pythonmac-SIG - python.org

Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] ObjC stuff
by Jack Jansen March 20, 2003

March 20, 2003

Recently, Steve Spicklemire <steve(a)spvi.com> said: > So it's in CVS somewhere? I'll do a check-out and see if I can find it. I don't know, Steven Majewski may know (I think he is the one who looked at it). If it isn't in the repository it probably should be, preferrably in the Modules directory (because it is useful for non-Mac users) but if there's objections against that we'll put it in the Mac/Modules dir. > I just ordered CW-6 today so I might be able to pitch in a bit. While very useful for other things (like MacPython development) you don't need it for OSX unix-Python development: this is all make and gcc-based (and you have those on your OSX developer disc). -- Jack Jansen | ++++ stop the execution of Mumia Abu-Jamal ++++ Jack.Jansen(a)oratrix.com | ++++ if you agree copy these lines to your sig ++++ www.oratrix.nl/~jack | see http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/spg-l/sigaction.htm

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Python and Jaguar
by Dinu Gherman Aug. 16, 2002

Aug. 16, 2002

Hi, I heard that Jaguar (OS X 10.2) finally comes with Python 2.2 bundled, but I don't have any developer prerelease of it, so I can only guess it's a Unix compile of 2.2.1. Has anybody already been riding on it to give more details? Dinu

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Python, Jython, Cocoa and Charleroi
by Ronald Oussoren Aug. 15, 2002

Aug. 15, 2002

Dinu Gherman wrote: > is anybody here interested in Python and Cocoa going to Charleroi? I'm definitely interested in Python and Cocoa, but not going to Chareroi. How are Jython and Cocoa working out? We (Frans Schippers, Jack Jansen and myself) are working on calling Cocoa from CPython, using the pyobjc module as a starting point. Loading NIB files works just fine, connecting the NIB to python will require some work. Ronald

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Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] more on MacPython/OSX/shared lib
by Jack Jansen Aug. 14, 2002

Aug. 14, 2002

Recently, Paul Miller <paul(a)fxtech.com> said: > >My next step is to remove all my Python code and see if I get the error > >without linking against Python. > > Back to square 1 for me. I removed the Python lib and all my Python code > and I have the same problem. It must be something in global initialization > in my own code. For yucks I disabled the __initialize and __terminate entry > points in the linker options and I ended up with an assert in my code > (which was expecting the static initializations to happen). Hmm, my guess would be either a bug in CodeWarrior, or (probably more likely) you using the wrong runtime library. Especially if you use C++ you have to be careful with which runtime library you use where, because the zero-overhead exception handling will fail otherwise. And you shouldn't use Python as an example, because it doesn't follow the rules (but gets away with it being a C program). You might want to spell out the MW Targeting MacOS manual. -- Jack Jansen | ++++ stop the execution of Mumia Abu-Jamal ++++ Jack.Jansen(a)oratrix.com | ++++ if you agree copy these lines to your sig ++++ www.cwi.nl/~jack | see http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/spg-l/sigaction.htm

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Proof of concept - Cocoa Python applet with Interface Builder!
by Jack Jansen July 14, 2002

July 14, 2002

Folks, we've just succeeded in creating the first Python applet (we think, you can never be sure about the "first" bit:-) that is awakened from a NIB file built with Interface Builder. The code is all pretty messy (both the Python code and the ObjC code), but at least it seems to work. If you want to have a look at this: get http://www.cwi.nl/ftp/jack/python/mac/nibpythonexample.tar.gz, read the README and play away! If had very limited success (none, actually) reaching the pyobjc crowd the last few weeks, so I suggest that discussion of this beast take place on pythonmac-sig(a)python.org with a cc to Pyobjc- dev(a)lists.sourceforge.net, for the time being. -- - Jack Jansen <Jack.Jansen(a)oratrix.com> http://www.cwi.nl/~jack - - If I can't dance I don't want to be part of your revolution -- Emma Goldman -

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newbie process question about building MachoPython
by Dan Brotsky July 3, 2002

July 3, 2002

(Please forgive me if the answer to this question should have been obvious: I'm quite new to building the CVS tree from scratch.) I've been having trouble building MachoPython CVS head on OS 10.1.5 (latest released devtools). I use the fink environment for most of my unixy stuff, and so set CPPFLAGS to -I/sw/include and LDFLAGS to -L/sw/lib. Building has been giving errors linking the Parser module (can't find library dl) and also compiling some other modules (can't find header dl<something>). I believe I've found the two problems in Makefile.pre.in underlying the failures-- 1. The PGEN build line doesn't add $(LDFLAGS) 2. The CPPFLAGS and CFLAGS defines don't include @CPPFLAGS@ and @CFLAGS@. --and I've prepared a context-diff patch that fixes those problems. So now comes the process question: 1. Should I submit a bug in sourceforge? 2. Should I submit the patch in sourceforge? I know that the python.org culture page says the answers to 1 and 2 are yes, but I wanted to check first given that this is kind of a Mac-y thing rather than a general thing. Thanks in advance for gentle responses. dan

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Bob is outta here!!
by Robert.van.Liere＠cwi.nl June 29, 2002

June 29, 2002

Sorry to bore you with this message, but I am out of the office until 8 July 2002 For urgent matters, please contact one of the following: - CWI Marja Hegt (Marja.Hegt(a)cwi.nl) - VR Jurriaan Mulder (mullie(a)cwi.nl) I may occasionally be reading mail and might even reply, but don't count on it! In any case I will get back to you ASAP. Thanks, -- Robert van Liere

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Tk on OS 9?
by Dan Shafer June 29, 2002

June 29, 2002

Ok, I may have to drop back to OS 9 from OS X to create an app for a client. What is the state/viability of Tk on Classic? And are there any GUI IDE kinds of tools other than the one that comes with Python on OS 9 from Just that I should check out? Any other big red flags or cautions? -- Dan Shafer, Product Development Expert Helping you turn your best ideas into products that sell http://www.danshafer.com

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IDLE Problem on MachoPython with native Aqua Tkinter
by pdetagyos＠palm.com June 29, 2002

June 29, 2002

I finally got python built and installed with native Aqua Tkinter (Thank You Tony Lownds!!), and am now playing around with IDLE. All looks to be well, until I start editing some code. In the IDLE shell, I import a library (say, Tkinter). Then, I type the following: f = Tkinter.Frame( As soon as I hit the (, the pop-up tip window appears. The problem is, when this tip window appears, it gets the focus, and I can't type in the shell window anymore. This is more than a little annoying. Please tell me that there is some way to get around this behavior. Is there a workaround that still allows the tooltips to be shown, but have the shell window retain the input focus? Thanks in advance. Peter

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newbie process question about building MachoPython
by Daniel Brotsky June 29, 2002

June 29, 2002

(Please forgive me if the answer to this question should have been obvious: I'm quite new to building the CVS tree from scratch.) I've been having trouble building MachoPython CVS head on OS 10.1.5 (latest released devtools). I use the fink environment for most of my unixy stuff, and so set CPPFLAGS to -I/sw/include and LDFLAGS to -L/sw/lib. Building has been giving errors linking the Parser module (can't find library dl) and also compiling some other modules (can't find header dl<something>). I believe I've found the two problems in Makefile.pre.in underlying the failures-- 1. The PGEN build line doesn't add $(LDFLAGS) 2. The CPPFLAGS and CFLAGS defines don't include @CPPFLAGS@ and @CFLAGS@. --and I've prepared a context-diff patch that fixes those problems. So now comes the process question: 1. Should I submit a bug in sourceforge? 2. Should I submit the patch in sourceforge? I know that the python.org culture page says the answers to 1 and 2 are yes, but I wanted to check first given that this is kind of a Mac-y thing rather than a general thing. Thanks in advance for gentle responses. dan

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