🌐 Mailman 3 September 2002 - Pythonmac-SIG - python.org

Should buildpkg mangle resource file names or not?
by Jack Jansen Sept. 14, 2002

Sept. 14, 2002

Here's a question that came up in a private discussion between Dinu and me, and I'd like to get other people to think about it too. Dinu's original implementation of buildpkg.py copied a pre-defined set of files from the resource directory to the package. These files had to exist with the package name in there, i.e. "Python 2.3a1.pre_install". I modified this so that a file that was simply called "pre_install" would be copied into the package as "Python 2.3a1.pre_install". This has the advantage that you can use your resource-source-directory for multiple distributions, because the filenames in there are not dependent on the installer package name. For one thing, this would allow me to put the resource-source-directory for the Python installer under CVS more easily. Dinu then sent me a patch that copies *all* files from the resource-source-directory. This is arguably better (as you can include sub-scripts, and as it allows the inclusion of resources that buildpkg isn't aware of), but it would break the generic name scheme I had done. Which scheme is better? Or should we do both? How? -- - Jack Jansen <Jack.Jansen(a)oratrix.com> http://www.cwi.nl/~jack - - If I can't dance I don't want to be part of your revolution -- Emma Goldman -

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Doh (My bad advice on Tk)
by Seth Delackner Sept. 14, 2002

Sept. 14, 2002

Well, I didn't read Tony's prior message about the Modules/Setup.local stuff being necessary, but I'm pretty sure that you still have to do ./configure --enable-framework Anyway, with 2.2.1 (the release tar.gz, not cvs since cvs just gave me a 2.3 release candidate) the instructions on his page still work fine. With OS X 10.1.5 anyway. Now if only wxPython and pygame would get up to speed... the current OS X pygame is several months behind the official release and their page says you can't build it yourself without hitting bugs in python itself.

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progress report...Tkinter no go with xfree86 either
by Russell E Owen Sept. 14, 2002

Sept. 14, 2002

I installed xfree86 using XonX's new installer "XFree86_4.2.0.1-10.2" for MacOS 10.2. That went fine. My OroborOSX was already current so I left it alone. I'd also already installed gnu readlines as per Dan Wolfe's helpful posting. I then build Python 2.2.1 using % make clean % make % sudo make install I don't recall seeing any outright errors, but did not save the output. The results are a Python that supports readlines (yaay), but that does NOT have Tkinter support. I get the usual error about failure to load _tkinter. I'm really surprised; I was sure this would work. Now I'm really stuck. Is there any way to get Python 2.2.1 to work with Tkinter under Jaguar? -- Russell

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Help: fink python broken after 10.2 upgrade
by Russell E Owen Sept. 13, 2002

Sept. 13, 2002

I may have missed the discussion already on this (was on vacation recently) but I did check the archives and if it's there, I missed it. I upgraded to 10.2 yesterday (including the developer tools) and now my Python (the current fink binary, version 2.2) is broken. When I start it I see: /sw/bin/python Python 2.2 (#1, Apr 17 2002, 16:11:12) [GCC 2.95.2 19991024 (release)] on darwin Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information. dyld: /sw/bin/python Undefined symbols: /sw/lib/libreadline.4.2.dylib undefined reference to _tgetent expected to be defined in /usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib Trace/BPT trap I realize python is also part of 10.2, so I tried that version. It runs, of course, but doesn't have readlines support and it can't find Tkinter or Numeric. Any suggestions for an easy way back to a working system (necessarily with Tkinter and Numeric and very preferably with readlines)? -- Russell In case it helps, here's my environment: HOME=/Users/rowen SHELL=/bin/tcsh USER=rowen PATH=/sw/bin:/sw/sbin:/bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/X11R6/bin PYTHONDOCS=/Library/Application\ Support/Python\ 2.2\ Docs/ PYTHONPATH=/Users/rowen/PythonRO:/Users/rowen/PythonRO/Util:/Users/rowen/PythonRO/TUI: SSH_AUTH_SOCK=/tmp/501/nl.uu.phil.SSHAgent.socket DISPLAY=:0.0 __CF_USER_TEXT_ENCODING=0x1F5:0:0 TERM=vt100 TERMCAP= TERM_PROGRAM=Apple_Terminal TERM_PROGRAM_VERSION=81 LOGNAME=rowen HOSTTYPE=macintosh VENDOR=apple OSTYPE=darwin MACHTYPE=powerpc SHLVL=1 PWD=/sw/bin GROUP=staff HOST=rowen.astro.washington.edu MANPATH=/sw/share/man:/sw/man:/usr/local/share/man:/usr/local/man:/usr/share/man:/usr/X11R6/man INFOPATH=/sw/share/info:/sw/info:/usr/local/share/info:/usr/local/lib/info:/usr/local/info:/usr/share/info PERL5LIB=/sw/lib/perl5 PEPPER=/Applications/Pepper/Pepper EDITOR=/usr/bin/mlpe CVS_RSH=ssh and my .cshrc: source /sw/bin/init.csh setenv PYTHONPATH "/Users/rowen/PythonRO:" setenv PYTHONDOCS "/Library/Application\ Support/Python\ 2.2\ Docs/" if( ! $?DISPLAY ) setenv DISPLAY :0.0 setenv PEPPER /Applications/Pepper/Pepper setenv EDITOR /usr/bin/mlpe # setenv EDITOR "bbedit -w" alias fnalcvs setenv CVSROOT cvsuser@sdss.fnal.gov:/cvs/sdss alias apocvs setenv CVSROOT :ext:cvs@galileo.apo.nmsu.edu:/home/cvs alias oldapocvs setenv CVSROOT :pserver:rowen-cvs@galileo.apo.nmsu.edu:/home/cvs setenv CVS_RSH ssh

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readlines support--any reason to use 4.2 instead of 4.3?
by Russell E Owen Sept. 13, 2002

Sept. 13, 2002

I just realized I fairly blindly copied somebody else's instructions for installing readlines 4.2, but 4.2a and 4.3 are also available. Is there a good reason not to use the latest version? -- Russell

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RE: [Pythonmac-SIG] Calling diff from MacPython
by Robin Siebler Sept. 13, 2002

Sept. 13, 2002

David Goodger Wrote: >Why not use Python's difflib? It may not be the speed demon that /bin/diff >is, but it's OS-independent and gives *very* readable results. Because I never knew there was such a critter? Thanks! I'll go look it up!

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Calling diff from MacPython
by Robin Siebler Sept. 13, 2002

Sept. 13, 2002

I need to compare to files and find out where they are different. Using diff seems to be a much better/faster choice compared to using cmp(). How would I call the *nix command diff from MacPython? The MacPython version of os has no system() call. Robin L. Siebler Software Test Engineer Palm --------------------------------------- Moe Szyslak: Hey, I don't need no advice from a pinball machine. I'll have you know, I wrote the book on love. Abe Simpson: Yeah - "All Quiet on the Western Front"!

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RE: [Pythonmac-SIG] Calling diff from MacPython
by Robin Siebler Sept. 13, 2002

Sept. 13, 2002

Using filecmp.cmp()and cmp() seems to be working, although I haven't fed it any large files yet. I think using cmp() to compare each line of the file (for files that filecmp shows to be different) might be a bit slow on large (5k lines or better) files. -----Original Message----- From: Ryan Wilcox [mailto:ryanwilcox@mac.com] Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 12:48 PM To: Robin Siebler; pythonmac-sig(a)python.org Subject: Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Calling diff from MacPython On Friday, September 13, 2002, at 11:40 AM, Robin Siebler wrote: >I need to compare to files and find out where they are different. >Using diff seems to be a much better/faster choice compared to using >cmp(). How would I call the *nix command diff from MacPython? The >MacPython version of os has no system() call. If you can control your environment, you might consider using BBEdit's Compare Files. It's only "ok" -- but it's pretty easy to figure out if two files are different. (It however, will NOT tell you how MANY differences WERE found via the scripting interface) Don't know if it's faster then cmp() though. And I don't think there's a built-in BBEdit python module -- you'd have to wrap a lot of it yourself. --------------- HOLD THE TRAIN.... You also might be able to use the "do shell script" osax to do this.. wrapping this into SYSTEM, I think, would be pretty simple. On OS 9, doesn't system() call MPW? (I thought I saw that somewhere) If I get a chance this weekend, I can investigate this... Have a good holiday, Jack. -Ryan Wilcox ---------------- PGP: 0x2F4E9C31 ----------------

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RE: [Pythonmac-SIG] Bug in cmp()?
by Robin Siebler Sept. 13, 2002

Sept. 13, 2002

Ack! I'm obviously trying to do too many different things at the same time today! I *should* have been using filecmp.cmp(). <in the voice of Gilda Radner's little old lady> "Nevermind" -----Original Message----- From: Just van Rossum [mailto:just@letterror.com] Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 12:32 PM To: Robin Siebler Cc: pythonmac-sig(a)python.org Subject: Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Bug in cmp()? Robin Siebler wrote: > I have 2 files that *should* be identical. According to 'diff -s', > they are. However, comparing the two files using cmp() results in a > return value of '-1'. The cmp() function compares two objects, not files. How exactly are you using it? Just

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Bug in cmp()?
by Robin Siebler Sept. 13, 2002

Sept. 13, 2002

I have 2 files that *should* be identical. According to 'diff -s', they are. However, comparing the two files using cmp() results in a return value of '-1'. Robin L. Siebler Software Test Engineer Palm --------------------------------------- [Homer uncovers a scheme to supply low-grade milk to the school] Homer Simpson: They're milking rats! RATS! Mayor 'Diamond' Joe Quimby: [to Fat Tony] Rats?! You promised me dog or higher!

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