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Re: Pythonmac-SIG Digest, Vol 19, Issue 27
by Kevin Walzer Nov. 23, 2004

Nov. 23, 2004

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 IDLE needs Tk/Aqua and tkinter. Go to http://tcltkaqua.sourceforge.net to get Tk Aqua, then use Package Manager to install tkinter (the Python bindings). | | Hi, all. I just did a clean install of 10.3.6 on an erased disk, and then | XCode 1.5, and then the MacPython-Panther-2.3-2 installer. All the | installers ran fine, but when I try to double-click the newly installed IDLE | nothing happens, and the Console logs the error message "no module named | PyShell." | | Since this was a clean install there are no older installations here. What | do I need to do? I've restarted but that didn't help, and there wasn't | anything in the MacPython wiki with the word "PyShell". | | Thanks for any help! | Dave Opstad | | - -- Kevin Walzer, PhD WordTech Software--Open Source Applications and Packages for OS X http://www.wordtech-software.com http://www.smallbizmac.com http://www.kevin-walzer.com mailto:sw@wordtech-software.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFBozwcJmdQs+6YVcoRAjrgAJ9VeyOnqrZr22XJWp9W/B8fbyuKWACfd+1c tjKvV4oeuVIDGulfP84/EQs= =I1Sc -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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In panther where are Python Carbon files Qd, Quickdraw, etc?
by Louis Pecora Nov. 23, 2004

Nov. 23, 2004

I switched to Panther (archive and install) and installed MacPython Addons. But there are files missing. I tried to use the Piddle plotting library (which worked in Jaguar), but now Qd.py, Quickdraw.py and a host of other files are 'missing' . A search shows that the older versions were archived in /Previous Systems/Previous System 1/Library/Frameworks/...blah blah/python2.3/plat-mac/Carbon/ (whew! what a pathname!), but no new versions appear in my /Library or any other folders. Is there a way to reinstall them? I really don't want to try manually moving them. I'd probably screw something up. And I'm probably missing other things, too. Any ideas appreciated. I miss that plotting package. -- Cheers, Lou Pecora Code 6362 Naval Research Lab Washington, DC 20375 USA Ph: +202-767-6002 email: pecora(a)anvil.nrl.navy.mil

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Error message: no module named PyShell
by Opstad, Dave Nov. 22, 2004

Nov. 22, 2004

Hi, all. I just did a clean install of 10.3.6 on an erased disk, and then XCode 1.5, and then the MacPython-Panther-2.3-2 installer. All the installers ran fine, but when I try to double-click the newly installed IDLE nothing happens, and the Console logs the error message "no module named PyShell." Since this was a clean install there are no older installations here. What do I need to do? I've restarted but that didn't help, and there wasn't anything in the MacPython wiki with the word "PyShell". Thanks for any help! Dave Opstad

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FW: [Pythonmac-SIG] Py2app working with PyQt, PyOpenGL applications?
by Huaicai Mo Nov. 22, 2004

Nov. 22, 2004

Bob, Thank you very much for the reply. As you suggested, I tried "--packages OpenGL", which will solve the OpenGL version problem, but I still got the error: "QPaintDevice: Must construct a Qapplication before a QPaintDevice." I don't think it's any problem of my scripts, it works without any problem if I start it manually in a shell window, and the same program works on Linux and Windows too. I suspect the problem is the way how py2app deals with PyQt/Qt modules. I noticed in the result package, it includes qt.so, qtgl.so, sip.so in the lib-dynload directory, and qt.pyc, qtgl.pyc, sip.pyc in the site-packages.zip file, but no where I can find anything about libqt.3.dylib and libqui.1.dylib in the package, I guess they are Qt libraries, which are needed to run my program. In the package that I created on Windows using py2exe, similar files exist: *.pyc in a zip file, and corresponding *.dll files outside, but there is one more dll file called: qt-mt333.dll, the Qt library file on Windows. I tried to copy those *.dylib files into the lib-dyload directory, but no success. I wonder if you have any work around for this problem at present? Thanks a lot, Regards, Huaicai _____ From: Bob Ippolito [mailto:bob@redivi.com] Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 11:21 AM To: Huaicai Mo Cc: pythonmac-sig(a)python.org Subject: Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Py2app working with PyQt, PyOpenGL applications? On Nov 19, 2004, at 5:56 PM, Huaicai Mo wrote: I am trying to use py2app to build an application bundle distribution on Mac OS X. I got some problems, I wonder if any one has similar experiences or any ideas for these? My Mac OS X is 10.2.8. I built py2app from source, since the py2app-0.1.5 installation package needs 10.3 installer. My software uses PyQt, PyOpenGL packages. Same as py2exe, py2app can't find the "sip" module, which is used by PyQt, so I add the option: "--includes sip", this works fine, but the problem is when I run the application, I got an error: The next version of py2app will include workarounds for PyQt and PyOpenGL, assuming that an easy-ish to install version of PyQt is available by the time I do it. I'll probably release a new version of py2app in two or three weeks. Until then, PyQt is completely untested and I can't really help you with anything PyQt specific. IOError: [Errno20] Not a directory: '../Contents/Resources/Python/site-packages.zip/OpenGL/version'. I tried to add the file 'version' from OpenGL directory to site-packages.zip and extract the zip file into a directory called site-packages.zip, the above error disappeared, but I got an new error: Don't do that. QPaintDevice: Must construct a Qapplication before a QPaintDevice. My application works fine and doesn't have such errors if I just start it from a shell window like: pythonw ../myapp.py. This sounds like an error in your script or something, I can't help you with that. Maybe using --packages for sip and PyQt (whatever the package names are called) will fix this? I haven't looked at PyQt in quite some time and have no idea what nasty hacks it uses. I also tried "--excludes OpenGL" module and then manually copy the OpenGL directory from Python.frameworks to "site-pakcages.zip" and "lib-dynload" directories, the trick that I used for py2exe on Windows, but it seems this is not Either hack the OpenGL __init__ to use a sane method to acquire its version, or use --packages OpenGL to include the package as-is (out of the zip) working here: " Fatal Python error: Interpreter not initialized (Version mismatch?) " This is because Python itself is included in your application, but the OpenGL extension links directly to your /LIbrary/Frameworks/Python.framework. It explodes because once you load that extension, you have *TWO* Python libraries in your process. When using py2app correctly (i.e. not hacking around the application bundles on your own!) it will automatically take care of this for you by rewriting the Mach-O load commands to point to your in-bundle Python. -bob

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Embedded Python compiling help
by Michael Gaiman Nov. 21, 2004

Nov. 21, 2004

Hi All, I'm getting started embedding python for a school project. I am starting by getting the program listed in http://docs.python.org/ext/pure-embedding.html. The next step is compiling. I've tried quite a few gcc commands, but no dice. The latest command I've tried is gcc -I/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.3/include/ python2.3 -L/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.3/lib/ python2.3/config -o runfunc run-func.c which fails due to undefined symbols. If anybody could take a minute and list the correct gcc command to compile and link this program, I would be very grateful. I'm using MacOSX 10.3.6 with the built in python.

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Fwd: [Pythonmac-SIG] ANN: PyQt-Mac binary installer, 11-2004-fix, available
by Ronald Oussoren Nov. 21, 2004

Nov. 21, 2004

Forgot to cc the group... Begin forwarded message: > From: Ronald Oussoren <ronaldoussoren(a)mac.com> > Date: 21 november 2004 9:26:26 GMT+01:00 > To: Bob Ippolito <bob(a)redivi.com> > Subject: Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] ANN: PyQt-Mac binary installer, > 11-2004-fix, available > > > On 20-nov-2004, at 16:45, Bob Ippolito wrote: > > >> >> >> Perhaps you should also consider putting it somewhere other than >> /Applications. /Developer/qt/somewhere or /Developer/Applications/Qt >> Tools/ would probably be more appropriate. >> > > /Developer would not be a good choice either. Older versions of the > developer tools installer would remove /Developer before installing a > new version. I haven't checked if the latest installer still does > that. > > Ronald > > > >

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ANN: PyQt-Mac binary installer, 11-2004-fix, available
by Kevin Walzer Nov. 20, 2004

Nov. 20, 2004

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 A new verison of the PyQt-Mac binary installer is available. This version, PyQt-Mac-11-2004-fix, includes a rebuilt version of Qt 3.3.3 with threading support, and adds symlinks to Qt libraries in /usr/lib/ (required by Qt) and /usr/local/lib (required by PyQt). This should address problems with installation that some users were previously reported. This package also includes the Eric 3 IDE, written in PyQt and packaged in a Mac application bundle. For more information and a download link, please see http://www.wordtech-software.com/pyqt-html . A mailing list for PyQt-Mac has also been established. To join the mailing list, see http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/pyqt-mac-list . - -- Kevin Walzer, PhD WordTech Software--Open Source Applications and Packages for OS X http://www.wordtech-software.com http://www.smallbizmac.com http://www.kevin-walzer.com mailto:sw@wordtech-software.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFBnkhSJmdQs+6YVcoRAhgqAJ9XS9Ct1J5GD2ErbDXwwnCu+Mn9rACeME+u 7qXhLYfY6qD1JqYKRapUrck= =RSVf -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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ANN: New build of wxGlade for OS X available
by Kevin Walzer Nov. 20, 2004

Nov. 20, 2004

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 A new build of wxGlade for OS X is available. This build of wxGladeOSX (version 0.3.5.1-cvs, November 2004) requires a separate installation of wxPython. This version allows the documentation to be viewed in the Apple Help Viewer, and also patches a bug that prevented the menu editor from responding to mouse clicks. Unzip the archive and place the wxGlade folder in your /Applications directory. To download, go to http://www.wordtech-software.com/wxglade.html - -- Kevin Walzer, PhD WordTech Software--Open Source Applications and Packages for OS X http://www.wordtech-software.com http://www.smallbizmac.com http://www.kevin-walzer.com mailto:sw@wordtech-software.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFBn1mAJmdQs+6YVcoRApkzAJsFQ+Y6P+tekS1EdeoHVRQZHxw1jQCfU433 KhhsydRSttUEQ0cztNfLfYU= =8MWt -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Py2app working with PyQt, PyOpenGL applications?
by Huaicai Mo Nov. 19, 2004

Nov. 19, 2004

Hello, I am trying to use py2app to build an application bundle distribution on Mac OS X. I got some problems, I wonder if any one has similar experiences or any ideas for these? My Mac OS X is 10.2.8. I built py2app from source, since the py2app-0.1.5 installation package needs 10.3 installer. My software uses PyQt, PyOpenGL packages. Same as py2exe, py2app can't find the "sip" module, which is used by PyQt, so I add the option: "--includes sip", this works fine, but the problem is when I run the application, I got an error: IOError: [Errno20] Not a directory: '../Contents/Resources/Python/site-packages.zip/OpenGL/version'. I tried to add the file 'version' from OpenGL directory to site-packages.zip and extract the zip file into a directory called site-packages.zip, the above error disappeared, but I got an new error: QPaintDevice: Must construct a Qapplication before a QPaintDevice. My application works fine and doesn't have such errors if I just start it from a shell window like: pythonw ../myapp.py. I also tried "--excludes OpenGL" module and then manually copy the OpenGL directory from Python.frameworks to "site-pakcages.zip" and "lib-dynload" directories, the trick that I used for py2exe on Windows, but it seems this is not working here: " Fatal Python error: Interpreter not initialized (Version mismatch?) " Please share your experience or ideas if you may have some for those problems. Thanks a lot. huaicai

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The where's-my-app problem
by Charles Hartman Nov. 19, 2004

Nov. 19, 2004

Over on the wxPython-users list, there has been endless discussion of this problem (see http://lists.wxwidgets.org/cgi-bin/ezmlm-cgi?11:sss:33832: fkbngdnmdfjfdjpcdndi#b): I want to know the directory from which my app was launched, so as to locate a couple of data files that need to be editable and therefore separate from the bundle, painlessly and without dialog boxes in the normal case (the files haven't been moved, the app is started by double-clicking or whatever is most obvious to a casual user). It turns out to be strangely difficult to do this in a way that works for (a) apps launched from the Terminal and (b) apps frozen by py2app on Mac and (c) py2exe apps on Windows. In several of the approaches proposed, the py2app "frozen" app seems to be the odd one out. IF I've got this straight, these are the two that work on Win2K running from Python and in a py2exe app, and on OS/X running from Python, but not from a bundlebuilder (or, I think, py2app) app: Method 1: programDir, programName = os.path.split(sys.argv[0]) if programDir == '': programDir = os.getcwd() Method 2: programDir2 = os.path.abspath(sys.path[0]) if os.path.isfile(programDir2): programDir2 = os.path.dirname(programDir2) So I guess the question people have been suggesting be asked is, is there any way for py2app to make either of those work? (I can't say I understand all this; I started the thread with what I thought was a foolishly simple question, and in 35 messages it's shown me all kinds of thngs I never saw before.) Charles Hartman Professor of English, Poet in Residence http://cherry.conncoll.edu/cohar http://villex.blogspot.com

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