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Python IDE 2.3.2 problems
by Feat Nov. 19, 2004

Nov. 19, 2004

Hi list! ~~~~~~~~~~ Background ~~~~~~~~~~ I need to use Python IDE (http://homepages.cwi.nl/~jack/macpython/) to teach programming fundamentals to beginners at the university of Paris 8, France. When moving from Jaguar to Panther I downloaded the "MacPython 2.3 for Panther addons" from : http://ftp.cwi.nl/jack/python/mac/MacPython-Panther-2.3-2.dmg ~~~~~~~~~~ Problems ~~~~~~~~~~ 1. Even the simplest code won't work in the IDE if I don't check the "Run as __main__" option, else it wouldn't find the interpreter, displaying an alert: "can't find command line Python", although there's a "Python interactive" window that behaves as expected. How do I patch the program so it searches /usr/local/bin/ to find either the python interpreter -- or the pythonw interpreter, which I actually want to use? 2. When I need to run a program that should use the "Tkinter" module (I'm running Tickle 8.4.4) I can only briefly see the widgets I've created -- then the IDE, and my application as well, vanish, quit with no alert, no warning, no nothing... However, when I use the Python Launcher (v2.3 by Jack Jansen) to launch that very same program, everything works okay. What's wrong with my installation? 3. A quick search for Tkinter will yield: Name Where _tkinter.so /Library/Python/2.3/ _tkinter.so /Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.3/lib/python2.3/site-packages/ Tkinter.py /Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.3/lib/python2.3/lib-tk/ Tkinter.pyc /Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.3/lib/python2.3/lib-tk/ Tkinter.pyo /Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.3/lib/python2.3/lib-tk/ Tkinter.py /System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.3/lib/python2.3/lib-tk/ Tkinter.pyc /System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.3/lib/python2.3/lib-tk/ Tkinter.pyo /System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.3/lib/python2.3/lib-tk/ So obviously, migrating from Jaguar to Panther had the side effect of duplicating some files from my previous installation. How shall I clean that mess, what should I remove, and where do these files really belong? I tried to install a fresh system (no Python IDE) on another partition and the Tkinter files only exist in the /System/Library/Frameworks/... path, but installing the IDE there doesn't make it work as expected either (and there's no "_tkinter.so" file any longer). Can anybody, please, help me to solve problems 1, 2 and 3? Thanks in advance. PowerBook Titanium G4-7410 500 MHz - running 1O.3.6 in 512 MB RAM -- Jym Feat Paris FR 75018

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Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Problems installing Python 2.3.4 over standard Apple Python installation
by Bob Ippolito Nov. 18, 2004

Nov. 18, 2004

Did you forget to "sudo make install" after "make" completed? On Nov 18, 2004, at 11:19 AM, Zsolt.Putnoky(a)alcatel.fr wrote: > > The change in the path was done already. Yes, u're right about the > DarwinPort download. I do not have time in the office to play around, > so I will find another solution. > > To: Zsolt PUTNOKY/FR/ALCATEL@ALCATEL > cc: pythonmac-sig(a)python.org > Subject: Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Problems installing Python 2.3.4 > over standard Apple Python installation > > > <image.tiff> > When you compile and install something, it will go to /usr/local/bin. > Add this early to your PATH, or use it directly. Try > "/usr/local/bin/python" instead of just typing "python". > > Consolidating packages for Darwinports or Fink for offline > installation is probably somewhat difficult. > > On Nov 18, 2004, at 11:08 AM, Zsolt.Putnoky(a)alcatel.fr wrote: > > Thanks for your reply. There is no net at home at this moment, so I > will try to download the files from DarwinPort to see if it works. > Even if these are only warnings, when I start Python from the CLI, I > see only 2.3 by Apple and not 2.3.4. > > Have a good day, > > Zsolt > > > > > To: Zsolt PUTNOKY/FR/ALCATEL@ALCATEL > > cc: pythonmac-sig(a)python.org > > Subject: Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Problems installing Python 2.3.4 > over standard Apple Python installation > > > > <image.tiff> > > On Nov 18, 2004, at 9:38 AM, Zsolt.Putnoky(a)alcatel.fr wrote: > > I have a project based on Zope3 which requires to have Python 2.3.4 on > my Mac (OS X 10.3.6). The machine has the > default Apple provided Python installed. I had tried several times but > never managed to get it work, and after reading all available > information > on how to install Python on Mac, I am still not able to do it. > > I issued the ./configure command (even tried with ./configure > --with-suffix=.exe --with-dyld). At the middle I had received > the following message (the one marked with ##) > > Just use the Python 2.3.4 from Darwinports or Fink for Zope3. It'll > be easier. > > Everything you posted sounds like a warnings, not errors, though.. so > I'm not sure what your problem is (if you do even have a problem in > the first place). > > -bob > <image.tiff> > > >

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Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Problems installing Python 2.3.4 over standard Apple Python installation
by Bob Ippolito Nov. 18, 2004

Nov. 18, 2004

When you compile and install something, it will go to /usr/local/bin. Add this early to your PATH, or use it directly. Try "/usr/local/bin/python" instead of just typing "python". Consolidating packages for Darwinports or Fink for offline installation is probably somewhat difficult. On Nov 18, 2004, at 11:08 AM, Zsolt.Putnoky(a)alcatel.fr wrote: > Thanks for your reply. There is no net at home at this moment, so I > will try to download the files from DarwinPort to see if it works. > Even if these are only warnings, when I start Python from the CLI, I > see only 2.3 by Apple and not 2.3.4. > > Have a good day, > > Zsolt > > > > > To: Zsolt PUTNOKY/FR/ALCATEL@ALCATEL > cc: pythonmac-sig(a)python.org > Subject: Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Problems installing Python 2.3.4 > over standard Apple Python installation > > > <image.tiff> > > On Nov 18, 2004, at 9:38 AM, Zsolt.Putnoky(a)alcatel.fr wrote: > > I have a project based on Zope3 which requires to have Python 2.3.4 on > my Mac (OS X 10.3.6). The machine has the > default Apple provided Python installed. I had tried several times but > never managed to get it work, and after reading all available > information > on how to install Python on Mac, I am still not able to do it. > > I issued the ./configure command (even tried with ./configure > --with-suffix=.exe --with-dyld). At the middle I had received > the following message (the one marked with ##) > > Just use the Python 2.3.4 from Darwinports or Fink for Zope3. It'll > be easier. > > Everything you posted sounds like a warnings, not errors, though.. so > I'm not sure what your problem is (if you do even have a problem in > the first place). > > -bob >

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Problems installing Python 2.3.4 over standard Apple Python installation
by Zsolt.Putnoky＠alcatel.fr Nov. 18, 2004

Nov. 18, 2004

Hi All, I have a project based on Zope3 which requires to have Python 2.3.4 on my Mac (OS X 10.3.6). The machine has the default Apple provided Python installed. I had tried several times but never managed to get it work, and after reading all available information on how to install Python on Mac, I am still not able to do it. I issued the ./configure command (even tried with ./configure --with-suffix=.exe --with-dyld). At the middle I had received the following message (the one marked with ##) ... checking locale.h presence... yes checking for locale.h... yes checking ncurses.h usability... no checking ncurses.h presence... yes configure: WARNING: ncurses.h: present but cannot be compiled configure: WARNING: ncurses.h: check for missing prerequisite headers? configure: WARNING: ncurses.h: proceeding with the preprocessor's result configure: WARNING: ## ------------------------------------ ## configure: WARNING: ## Report this to bug-autoconf(a)gnu.org. ## configure: WARNING: ## ------------------------------------ ## checking for ncurses.h... yes checking poll.h usability... no checking poll.h presence... no checking for poll.h... no checking pthread.h usability... yes ... configure: creating ./config.status config.status: creating Makefile.pre config.status: creating Modules/Setup.config config.status: creating pyconfig.h config.status: pyconfig.h is unchanged creating Setup creating Setup.local creating Makefile The ./configure ended with no special error message. After issuing the make command, I had received the following message (actually repeated several times) ... cc1: warning: changing search order for system directory "/usr/local/include" cc1: warning: as it has already been specified as a non-system directory ... Then issued the "make clean", followed by "make" again .... and received ... Objects/fileobject.c: In function `file_tell': Objects/fileobject.c:668: warning: implicit declaration of function `getc_unlocked' Objects/fileobject.c: In function `get_line': Objects/fileobject.c:1134: warning: implicit declaration of function `flockfile' Objects/fileobject.c:1169: warning: implicit declaration of function `funlockfile' ... /Users/zsoltputnoky/Temp/Python-2.3.4/Modules/expat/xmlparse.c:1719: warning: `cdecl' attribute directive ignored /Users/zsoltputnoky/Temp/Python-2.3.4/Modules/expat/xmlparse.c:1731: warning: `cdecl' attribute directive ignored ... I would really appreciate if someone can tell me what I did wrong or what can be the problem. Thanks alot, Zsolt Putnoky

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Problem with tkaqua Tkinter and some Kanji unicode values.
by Read Roberts Nov. 17, 2004

Nov. 17, 2004

Has any one else seen the following? Mac OSX 10.3.6, standard Python from 10.3.4 installation + tkAqua Tkinter.tkinter.TK_VERSION is '8.4' I set a unicode string into a tKinter widget. Some kanji display correctly, some do no. The ones that don't show up as a white square followed by a black square. Both the Unicode values for the kanji that work and the ones that don't are present in the font used by the widget. Example: from Tkinter import * from tkFont import Font as TKFont root = Tk() root.font = TKFont(root, font = (u'\u30d2\u30e9\u30ae\u30ce\u89d2\u30b4 Pro W3', 12)) print root.font.actual() myFrame = Frame(root) root.resizable(1, 1) root.rowconfigure(0,weight=1) root.columnconfigure(0,weight=1) myFrame.grid() myFrame.rowconfigure(0,weight=1) myFrame.columnconfigure(0,weight=1) myEntry = Entry(myFrame, borderwidth = 10, font=root.font) testString = u"\u8146, \u500e, \u440c" myEntry.insert(0, testString) myEntry.grid() print repr(myEntry.get()) myFrame.mainloop() The font is used in this example is Hiragino Kaku Gothic-W3. FontBook shows that it has glyphs for all three Unicode values in the test string. u8146 shows up correctly, the others do not. Works fine on Windows.

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Shark for Python?
by Bill Janssen Nov. 16, 2004

Nov. 16, 2004

So how do we get Apple's nifty performance monitoring tool, Shark, to support Python? Anyone working on this? Bill

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Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Where did Python.h come from?
by Chris Barker Nov. 15, 2004

Nov. 15, 2004

----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Ippolito <bob(a)redivi.com> > On Nov 15, 2004, at 10:40 PM, Chris Barker wrote: > > > I'm trying to help a friend install Scientific Python on his OS- > X 10.3 > > box, and it can't find Python.h. > Did he forget to install Xcode? :) well, he's got gcc, so I assumed he's installed the developer tools, but it wounds like we need to re-visit that one. He's also got who knows what from fink, so I suppose it's possible we've been using a fink gcc. Back to Developer connection. thanks, -Chris

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installing Numeric
by Christian Meesters Nov. 15, 2004

Nov. 15, 2004

Hi I was about to install the Numeric module (not Numarray!) and for that LPACK is missing. Now, for installing LPACK one needs a f77-Compiler. Does anybody know how to rewrite the make.inc if you have gcc? I've seen a few older examples, but after checking them I'm completely confused. Thanks a lot in advance, Christian

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Where did Python.h come from?
by Chris Barker Nov. 15, 2004

Nov. 15, 2004

Hi all, I'm trying to help a friend install Scientific Python on his OS-X 10.3 box, and it can't find Python.h. On my system, I have a whole bunch of stuff (including Python.h) in my: /System/Library/Frameworks/Python.Framework/Versions/2.3/include directory, but he doesn't. Where did all those *.h files come from? How do I install them on his machine? I don't remember doing anything special on mine. -thanks, Chris -- Christopher Barker, Ph.D. Oceanographer NOAA/OR&R/HAZMAT (206) 526-6959 voice 7600 Sand Point Way NE (206) 526-6329 fax Seattle, WA 98115 (206) 526-6317 main reception Chris.Barker(a)noaa.gov

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move/rename files w resource forks
by brad.allen＠omsdal.com Nov. 15, 2004

Nov. 15, 2004

I read somewhere that the "mv" command doesn't properly handle files with resource forks. Is this likely to be true with Python's os.rename ? If so, what is the recommended method to move or rename files? I'd prefer not to use MvMac since most of the computers I administer do not have the Apple developer tools installed. Thanks!

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