🌐 Mailman 3 May 2005 - Pythonmac-SIG - python.org

donation
by Kenneth McDonald May 24, 2005

May 24, 2005

Bob, I'd like to make a donation to the pythonmac site--I assume the paypal recipient, bob(a)redivi.com, is you, Bob Ippolito? I thought this might be of interest, so thought I'd ask on the forum; is the percentage that PayPal takes large enough that you would prefer donations by check? Thanks, Ken

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Run Python module directly from Terminal?
by Andrew Jaffe May 24, 2005

May 24, 2005

> Chinook ~ 81 $"/usr/local/bin/python" "/Users/Chinook/PythonProjects/ > MyUtilities/ConvertFile.py" "/Users/Chinook/TestFiles/AtoB.txt" && > echo Exit status: $? && exit 1 > > <process log output> > > Exit status: 0 > > So what's my problem? Well I know I could reduce the typing with > some aliasing in my .profile file, but I'm wondering if there is not > a simpler/direct way of accomplishing a basic task such as this? And just to make some of the other bits more explicit, which you've probably already worked out anyway: first, you don't need any of the quotes, since none of the filenames have spaces or other weird characters. Second, /usr/local/bin is likely already in your path. Third, if you are also already in the directory with AtoB.txt, all you need is probably $ python /Users/Chinook/PythonProjects/MyUtilities/ConvertFile.py AtoB.txt (unless you've written the script in such a way that it needs the absolute path) A

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Crossplatform UI libraries best supported on the Mac?
by Kenneth McDonald May 24, 2005

May 24, 2005

This is only half a Mac question, I admit, but the Mac aspect will be a big influence... I'd like to pick a crossplatform UI library for which Python has bindings, to start doing some programming in. I've used and liked Tk a lot in the past, but unfortunately it seems to be (1) way out popularity, (2) not moving forward in any significant sense, and (3), in my experience, often quite difficult to use on the Mac with Python and other Tk addons, due to compile issues. The flavors o' the day seem to be either QT or wxWindows. So, questions: 1) Is either of these difficult to install or use with Python on the Mac, using a version of Python newer than that which shipped with Tiger? If one is easier, which one? 2) Similarly, for which is it easier to get third-party widgets and libs up and running, under the conditions stated above. 3) Finally, since I'm asking, a non-Mac question; which do people think is better, both in the context of using with Python, and in the more general context of being a good UI lib. Thanks, Ken

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Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Run Python module directly from Terminal?
by Lee Cullens May 24, 2005

May 24, 2005

I wanted to run a python module across a file and tried just double clicking the script, which thanks to Bob's build (I guess) would have worked fine if I had not used a .py file and had not had an arg. Anyway it showed me enough to accomplish what I wanted. I did not want to create a standalone because I edit it for different (usually one time) purposes and thus usually have only a .py file to start. So, after changing the first item to python (instead of pythonw) and including a third item for the arg, this worked: ============================= Welcome to Darwin! Chinook ~ 81 $"/usr/local/bin/python" "/Users/Chinook/PythonProjects/ MyUtilities/ConvertFile.py" "/Users/Chinook/TestFiles/AtoB.txt" && echo Exit status: $? && exit 1 <process log output> Exit status: 0 logout [Process completed] ================================ So what's my problem? Well I know I could reduce the typing with some aliasing in my .profile file, but I'm wondering if there is not a simpler/direct way of accomplishing a basic task such as this? Thanks, Lee C

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Note that the 2.4 installer doesn't install pydoc into /usr/local/bin
by Kenneth McDonald May 24, 2005

May 24, 2005

This one caused me a bit of confusion, and I thought I'd mention it so that others would not about it if it bit them. Basically, I installed 2.4 and xattr. However, 'pydoc xattr' couldn't document the xattr module, even though python could load it. I finally figured out that the 2.4 version of pydoc wasn't in /usr/local/bin, meaning the version in /usr/bin was being used, and it wasn't looking at the things installed under 2.4 I like 2.4, though, the the install was very, very easy. Thanks, Ken

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Building Twisted
by Dethe Elza May 23, 2005

May 23, 2005

Hi folks, Has anyone installed twisted 2.0 on Tiger? I don't think I've ever had trouble building Twisted before, but now they've made it dependent on Zope Interfaces, which won't build for me. I'm running OS 10.4, Bob's Python 2.4, latest svn of PyObjC and py2app. Here's the traceback I'm getting when I try to build Zope Interfaces 3.0.1: $ python setup.py build running build running build_py running build_ext building 'zope.interface._zope_interface_coptimizations' extension gcc -fno-strict-aliasing -Wno-long-double -no-cpp-precomp -mno-fused- madd -fno-common -dynamic -DNDEBUG -g -O3 -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes - IDependencies/zope.interface-ZopeInterface-3.0.1/zope.interface -I/ Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.4/include/python2.4 -c Dependencies/zope.interface-ZopeInterface-3.0.1/zope.interface/ _zope_interface_coptimizations.c -o build/temp.darwin-8.1.0- Power_Macintosh-2.4/Dependencies/zope.interface-ZopeInterface-3.0.1/ zope.interface/_zope_interface_coptimizations.o Dependencies/zope.interface-ZopeInterface-3.0.1/zope.interface/ _zope_interface_coptimizations.c:339: error: static declaration of 'SpecType' follows non-static declaration Dependencies/zope.interface-ZopeInterface-3.0.1/zope.interface/ _zope_interface_coptimizations.c:73: error: previous declaration of 'SpecType' was here error: command 'gcc' failed with exit status 1 Since when do either Zope or Twisted require binary components anyway? --Dethe

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Is this the correct way to have installed and to use Python 2.4
by Kenneth McDonald May 23, 2005

May 23, 2005

I just downloaded and installed the Tiger 2.4 Python mpkg (including the fix afterwords), mainly so I could use Bob's great looking xattr module. Bringing up 'python' in a terminal brings up 2.3.whatever, and I assume that's because the version in /System/Library hasn't been disturbed and is first on the default search path--please correct me if I'm wrong. What is the best (a subjective consideration, to be sure) to use python 2.4 while making sure that I don't mess up the Apple-installed version for anything important. Should I put /usr/local/bin on the default path? Should I create a link to python 2.4 in /usr/bin, and if so, should I replace the current 'python', or should I create a new name like 'py' so that 2.3 is still accessible using 'python' on the command line. What do I need to think about in terms of making sure things I install in the future will be compiled against 2.4, and will be available on the python path. Thanks for all the help, Ken

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tiger
by Jay Mutter May 22, 2005

May 22, 2005

I have performed a clean install of Tiger on an ibook and then installed the MacPython-OSX-2.4.1 framework build and the TigerPython24Fix. The MacPython-2.4 folder is in Applications and all included items work. What is a or the correct way to have python 2.4.1 run when I type python in terminal? Prior to installing 2.4.1 I installed one module {SnakeSQL} which worked/works fine under 2.3.5 and is located in /library/Python/2.3/site-packages. What is the proper way to get 2.4.1 to utilize this and to utilize wxPython? thanks Jay Mutter jmutter(a)uakron.edu

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numarray 1.1.1 w/ vecLib (Apple's optimized implementation of BLAS)
by Andrew Jaffe May 22, 2005

May 22, 2005

Hi Bob (et al), Any chance of an updated package for numarray 1.3.1? (Or just hints on fixing the installer which doesn't quite pick up veclib correctly, I think!)? Thanks, Andrew

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Free Python code and Licenses
by Kenneth McDonald May 20, 2005

May 20, 2005

I have nothing against the GPL (well, yes I do, I think it makes the free and commercial software sides enemies, but that's a completely different topic), but I do think it would be nice if all free Python software was released under the same license as Python itself. Python is an elegant language, and having all kinds of different Python modules under all sorts of different licenses is, well...inelegant. Thanks for the module though! I will be looking at it once I get Tiger installed, it could be very useful. Does it allow the _creation_ of custom metadata tags on files? Or are we restricted to the ones defined by Apple? Thanks, Ken > >>> I released the code under the GPL > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> Why GPL? > >> > >> > > > > Why not? > > That's as good an answer as any. I was just wondering. One reason to > pick a MIT/BSD license (or even the PSF license) is that it is very > unlikely that GPL-ed code will ever be included with Python itself.

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