🌐 Mailman 3 April 2007 - Pythonmac-SIG - python.org

wxPython problem...
by Jerry LeVan April 24, 2007

April 24, 2007

Hi, I am running latest OSX 10.4.9, Python 2.5.1 (r251:54869, Apr 18 2007, 22:08:04) and wxPython2.8-osx-unicode-2.8.3.0-universal10.4-py2.5.dmg. When I try help(wx) I get: >>> help(wx) Traceback (most recent call last): File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module> File "/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.5/lib/ python2.5/site.py", line 346, in __call__ return pydoc.help(*args, **kwds) File "/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.5/lib/ python2.5/pydoc.py", line 1645, in __call__ self.help(request) File "/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.5/lib/ python2.5/pydoc.py", line 1689, in help else: doc(request, 'Help on %s:') File "/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.5/lib/ python2.5/pydoc.py", line 1481, in doc pager(title % desc + '\n\n' + text.document(object, name)) File "/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.5/lib/ python2.5/pydoc.py", line 324, in document if inspect.ismodule(object): return self.docmodule(*args) File "/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.5/lib/ python2.5/pydoc.py", line 1084, in docmodule contents.append(self.docother(value, key, name, maxlen=70)) File "/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.5/lib/ python2.5/pydoc.py", line 1283, in docother repr = self.repr(object) File "/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.5/lib/ python2.5/repr.py", line 24, in repr return self.repr1(x, self.maxlevel) File "/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.5/lib/ python2.5/pydoc.py", line 951, in repr1 return cram(stripid(repr(x)), self.maxother) File "//Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.5/lib/ python2.5/site-packages/wx-2.8-mac-unicode/wx/_gdi.py", line 242, in __repr__ def __repr__(self): return 'wx.Colour' + str (self.Get(True)) File "//Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.5/lib/ python2.5/site-packages/wx-2.8-mac-unicode/wx/_gdi.py", line 230, in Get return _gdi_.Colour_Get(*args, **kwargs) TypeError: in method 'Colour_Get', expected argument 1 of type 'wxColour *' >>> Anyone know what the problem could be? Jerry

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Numeric problem with Intel Mac OSX 10.4.8
by Jan H. Jensen April 24, 2007

April 24, 2007

Hi, I have the following problem. Can anyone help? best regards, Jan Jensen Python 2.4.4 (#1, Oct 18 2006, 10:34:39) [GCC 4.0.1 (Apple Computer, Inc. build 5341)] on darwin Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information. >>> import Numeric Traceback (most recent call last): File "<stdin>", line 1, in ? File "/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.4/lib/python2.4/site-packages/Numeric/Numeric.py", line 91, in ? import multiarray ImportError: Inappropriate file type for dynamic loading >>> -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Jan H. Jensen Associate Research Professor Department of Chemistry jhjensen(a)theory.ki.ku.dk University of Copenhagen Phone: +45 35 32 02 39 Universitetsparken 5 FAX: +45 35 32 02 14 2100 Copenhagen Denmark http://propka.ki.ku.dk/~jhjensen =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

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Pythonmac 2.4.4 (PPC) and mod_python problems
by Brian Hunter April 23, 2007

April 23, 2007

Hi david, I was wondering if you found a work around for the $make problem as I have encountered the same thing. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, -Brian Brian Hunter brianhunterstudio.com

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Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] accessing iPhoto star rating through appscript?
by has April 19, 2007

April 19, 2007

Daniel Thorpe wrote: > Does anyone know if it's possible to access the star rating of a > photo from iPhoto using appscript? After looking in the iPhoto > dictionary and not seeng any reference to it, I have a feeling it > is not exposed through AppleScript. Nope. The ratings widget doesn't appear to be accessible via GUI Scripting either. You could try filing a feature request. > If anyone has found a way to get the number of stars, I'd love to > know! You could try digging around in ~/Pictures/iPhoto Library/ AlbumData.xml, I guess, though it's not something I've done myself. HTH has -- http://appscript.sourceforge.net http://rb-appscript.rubyforge.org http://appscript.sourceforge.net/objc-appscript.html

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Update list of Mac applications using Python
by Kevin Walzer April 15, 2007

April 15, 2007

Hi all, In addition to putting together some updates for the official MacPython documentation (still in progress, but to be submitted to the tracker soon), I also want to do some updates to the MacPython wiki, now hosted at http://wiki.python.org/moin/MacPython. An area of particular interest is the list of Mac applications that are built with Python, or integrate Python in some significant way: http://wiki.python.org/moin/MacPython/MacSoftwareUsingPython The list has been updated by a couple of folks recently, but I don't believe this is the entire list of Python applications available. My criteria for adding an app is as follows: the app is written in Python or makes extensive use of Python as a scripting language, it is Mac-only or has a dedicated, supported Mac-native/Aqua build (i.e. bundled with py2app, distributed in a DMG, has a standard Mac icon, etc.), and are under current development (a lot of the apps currently listed at the wiki do not appear have been updated for a long time, or at least the listings haven't). Note that I don't want to limit the list to PyObjC apps--wxPython, PyQt, and Tkinter applications should also be listed if they fit these criteria. Here are a few I think should be added: Brian Lenihan's port of PySol to OS X--now hosted (according to his webpage) at http://pysolfc.sourceforge.net/. I gather that Brian's work has been merged into a full-blown, cross-platform project that is a fork of PySol. The new version of PySol makes use of new Tk libraries (Tile) that greatly improve the look and feel under Aqua. Russell Owen's TUI (http://www.apo.nmsu.edu/35m_operations/TUI/), a Tkinter GUI for the APO 3.5m telescope. Goombah by Emergent Software, a PyObjC commercial application that integrates with iTunes. http://www.gombah.com. I see one application I already knew about, Checkout, has already been added; another, Find It!, is new to me. I'll be adding one of my own applications written in Python/Tkinter as well. If anyone can think of other apps to add to this list, I would appreciate it--I'll handle actually adding them to the wiki since most folks don't have time to do that. Again, this list should include PyObjC apps, and wxPython, Tk, and PyQt apps with dedicated Mac builds/versions. Also, if anyone could let me know the current status of any of these applications, I would appreciate it: Drawbot (is it current?) RegExPlor RestEdit TomatoTorrent: Looks current, but what's the difference between this and BitTorrent? Isn't there an official Mac build written with one of the standard Mac GUI toolkits? (Sorry, not a BitTorrent user) FontLab Thanks! -- Kevin Walzer Code by Kevin http://www.codebykevin.com

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Tkinter issue in 2.5
by Ronald Oussoren April 13, 2007

April 13, 2007

Does anyone know if Tcl/Tk 8.4.10 is particularly buggy? There's a bugreport on the python tracker that mentions a crash in IDLE with Tcl/Tk 8.4.10 that goes away when reverting to the default system version: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/? func=detail&atid=105470&aid=1621111&group_id=5470 Ronald

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.so import bug python 2.3 vs 2.4 (++?)
by David Worrall April 13, 2007

April 13, 2007

Hello all, OSX 2.4.9: A (largish) Xcode project compiled to a .so with the /System/Library python framework. The .so is produced and imports into python (2.3.4) When the whole process is repeated, replacing python 2.3.4 with 2.4.3 I get an >> ImportError: Inappropriate file type for dynamic loading can anyone shed any light on this for me please? (or just tell me what's gotta change :-) David _________________________________________________ experimental polymedia: www.avatar.com.au Sonic Communications Research Group, University of Canberra: www.canberra.edu.au/vc-forum/scrg

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[Fwd: Re: Python interpreter in the Terminal]
by Christopher Barker April 13, 2007

April 13, 2007

Sorry Ronald, this should have gone only to the list. I just can't get used to that darn "reply all" thing.... -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Python interpreter in the Terminal Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2007 09:12:45 -0700 From: Christopher Barker <Chris.Barker(a)noaa.gov> To: Ronald Oussoren <ronaldoussoren(a)mac.com> Ronald Oussoren wrote: > Install the readline extension, one way to this is the package at: > http://www.python.org/pypi/readline Or install a new python -- there are many benefits to this anyway: http://pythonmac.org/packages -Chris -- Christopher Barker, Ph.D. Oceanographer Emergency Response Division NOAA/NOS/OR&R (206) 526-6959 voice 7600 Sand Point Way NE (206) 526-6329 fax Seattle, WA 98115 (206) 526-6317 main reception Chris.Barker(a)noaa.gov -- Christopher Barker, Ph.D. Oceanographer Emergency Response Division NOAA/NOS/OR&R (206) 526-6959 voice 7600 Sand Point Way NE (206) 526-6329 fax Seattle, WA 98115 (206) 526-6317 main reception Chris.Barker(a)noaa.gov

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Python interpreter in the Terminal
by Eric Leven April 12, 2007

April 12, 2007

Noob question? No doubt. But I've asked around, and no one seems to know. If anyone can help, I'd appreciate it. Using the Python (2.3?) interpreter in OS 10.4 in the Terminal, I lose access to any shell keyboard shortcuts, for example, the arrow keys, ctrl-a, ctrl-e, etc. Instead I get odd control characters, and I end up doing a lot of painful cutting and pasting. I don't have this problem in Linux. Both machines are calling python from a tcsh shell. Is there a simple solution? Am I the only one running python from the terminal? Thanks a lot, -eric

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Suggested revisions for MacPython documentation section 1--please review
by Kevin Walzer April 11, 2007

April 11, 2007

I've taken some time to prepare a draft update to section 1 of the MacPython documentation that ships with the standard Python 2.5 distribution: the anchor link for this is file:///Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.5/Resources/English.lproj/Documentation/mac/using.html. The current docs are obsolete, referring to the old PythonIDE, PackageManager, bundlebuilder/build as applet, etc. I've taken some time to revise them to reflect the current state of Python on the Mac, at least in terms of "getting started." I've added stuff on downloading from Python.org, IDLE as the standard editor with MacPython, a brief intro on GUI toolkits, py2app, and so on. I'm not going to touch the other documentation, i.e. the Carbon modules, as I'm not knowledgable enough about the Carbon bits. (I would suggest replacing all the OSA bits with a reference to appscript, but I'm not going to write that part myself.) I am wondering, however, if some additional sections to the Mac library could simply be lifted from docstrings and added? Running pydoc shows stuff like plistlib, Terminal(?) and other stuff that isn't included in the standard documentation. Could someone review the text below and let me know what should be changed? Also, what is the best way to get this submitted/committed for the next point release of Python 2.5.x? I'm still learning that process. :-) Thanks, Kevin ------ "Using MacPython on a Macintosh" 1.1, Getting and Installing MacPython Mac OS X 10.4 comes with Python 2.3 pre-installed by Apple. However, you are encouraged to install the most recent of version of Python from the Python website (http://www.python.org). A "universal binary" build of Python 2.5, which runs natively on the Mac's new Intel and legacy PPC CPU's, is available there. (A separate, freeware commercial build of Python for OS X is available from http:///www.activestate.com.) What you get after installing is a number of things: * A MacPython 2.5 folder in your Applications folder. In here you find IDLE, the development environment that is a standard part of official Python distributions; PythonLauncher, which handles double-clicking Python scripts from the Finder; and the "Build Applet" tool, which allows you to package Python scripts as standalone applications on your system. * A fairly standard Unix commandline Python interpreter in /usr/local/bin/python, but without the usual /usr/local/lib/python. * A framework /Library/Frameworks/Python.framework, where all the action really is, but which you usually do not have to be aware of. To uninstall MacPython you can simply remove these three things. The Apple-provided build of Python is installed in /System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework and /usr/bin/python, respectively. You should in principle never modify or delete these, as they are Apple-controlled and may be used by Apple- or third-party software. IDLE includes a help menu that allows you to access Python documentation. If you are completely new to Python you should start reading the IDE introduction in that document. If you are familiar with Python on other Unix platforms you should read the section on running Python scripts from the Unix shell. 1.1.1 How to run a Python script Your best way to get started with Python on Mac OS X is through the IDLE integrated development environment, see section 1.2 and use the Help menu when the IDE is running. If you want to run Python scripts from the Terminal window command line or from the Finder you first need an editor to create your script. Mac OS X comes with a number of standard Unix command line editors, vim and emacs among them. If you want a more Mac-like editor BBEdit or TextWrangler from Bare Bones Software (see http://www.barebones.com/products/bbedit/index.shtml) are good choices. To run your script from the Terminal window you must make sure that /usr/local/bin is in your shell search path. To run your script from the Finder you have two options: * Drag it to PythonLauncher * Select PythonLauncher as the default application to open your script (or any .py script) through the finder Info window and double-click it. PythonLauncher has various preferences to control how your script is launched. Option-dragging allows you to change these for one invocation, or use its Preferences menu to change things globally. 1.1.2 Running scripts with a GUI With older versions of Python, there is one Mac OS X quirk that you need to be aware of: programs that talk to the Aqua window manager (in other words, anything that has a GUI) need to be run in a special way. Use pythonw instead of python to start such scripts. With Python 2.5, you can use either python or pythonw. 1.1.3 configuration MacPython honours all standard Unix environment variables such as PYTHONPATH, but setting these variables for programs started from the Finder is non-standard as the Finder does not read your .profile or .cshrc at startup. You need to create a file ~/.MacOSX/environment.plist. See Apple's Technical Document QA1067 for details. For more information on installation Python packages in MacPython, see section 1.3, "Installing Additional Python Packages." 1.2 The IDE MacPython ships with the standard IDLE development environment. A good introduction to using IDLE can be found at http://hkn.eecs.berkeley.edu/~dyoo/python/idle_intro/index.html. ***remove all 1.2.x subsections--they pertain to the obsolete PythonIDE*** 1.3 Installing Additional Python Packages There are several methods to install additional Python packages: * http://pythonmac.org/packages/ contains selected compiled packages for Python 2.5, 2.4, and 2.3. * Packages can be installed via the standard Python distutils mode ("python setup.py install"). * Many packages can also be installed via the setuptools extension. 1.4 GUI Programming on the Mac There are several options for building GUI applications on the Mac with Python. The standard Python GUI toolkit is tkinter, based on the cross-platform Tk toolkit (http://www.tcl.tk). An Aqua-native version of Tk is bundled with OS X by Apple, and the latest version can be downloaded and installed from http://www.activestate.com; it can also be built from source. wxPython is another popular cross-platform GUI toolkit that runs natively on Mac OS X. Packages and documentation are available from http://www.wxpython.org. PyObjC is a Mac-only Python binding to the Cocoa toolkit that ships with Mac OS X. Information on PyObjC is available from http://pybojc.sourceforge.net. 1.4 Distributing Python Applications on the Mac The "Build Applet" tool that is placed in the MacPython 2.5 folder is fine for packaging small Python scripts on your own machine to run as a standard Mac application. This tool, however, is not robust enough to distribute Python applications to other users. The standard tool for deploying standalone Python applications on the Mac is py2app. More information on installing and using py2app can be found at http://undefined.org/python/#py2app. 1.5 Other Resources A useful resource for Python on the Mac is at the MacPython wiki: http://wiki.python.org/moin/MacPython

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