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Adding sub-packages in py2app
by Christopher Barker Oct. 17, 2008

Oct. 17, 2008

Hi all, I find I sometimes need to add a sub-package or module that wasn't pickle dup my py2app, and can't figure out how to do it. The problem is thus: say I have a module I'm using that's part of a bigger package. It might get imported like so: from BigPackage.SubPackage import Amodule If I add it to the includes list like this: OPTIONS = {... 'includes': ['BigPackage.SubPackage.Amodule'], } It gets included, but as "Amodule", so it would have to be imported as: import Amodule If do this: 'packages' : [BigPackage] all of BigPackage gets included, but if it's big, and all I need is the one module, that's a lot of extra stuff. is there a way to handle this??? NOTE: If I was really importing the way I do above, py2app should pick it up and it'll get included properly, but sometimes that stuff is getting import with __import__ or, when unpacking a pickle, or..., so I do need to tell py2app to include it. -thanks, -Chris -- Christopher Barker, Ph.D. Oceanographer Emergency Response Division NOAA/NOS/OR&R (206) 526-6959 voice 7600 Sand Point Way NE (206) 526-6329 fax Seattle, WA 98115 (206) 526-6317 main reception Chris.Barker(a)noaa.gov

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Python-Mac wiki?
by Joe Strout Oct. 17, 2008

Oct. 17, 2008

This mailing list is great, but it'd be nice to have a wiki we could all contribute docs, explanations, and examples to as well. Is there something like that already set up? Thanks, - Joe -- Joe Strout joe(a)strout.net Words of wisdom from Helen Philpot: <http://margaretandhelen.wordpress.com/2008/10/07/maverick-my-ass/>

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Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Macpython installation
by Christopher Barker Oct. 16, 2008

Oct. 16, 2008

Joe, Your messages are going only to me. That may be intentional, but if you want them to go to the list, you need to "reply all". Joe Strout wrote: > Ah, but I didn't actually install MacPython; I just opened up a terminal > window and typed "Python" and said "ooh, how nice, it's pre-installed!" > > What else am I missing because of this procedure? What's the difference > between "MacPython" and "Python which comes pre-installed on a Mac"? MacPython is simply the python build that you can get from python.org. With OS-X 10.5, Apple included Python2.5.1, which was the latest at the time of the release. However, historically, they have never upgraded python between OS-X releases, which has been the case so for -- the most recent 2.5 is not 2.5.2, and python2.6 is out now. There are reasons to use Apple's Python and other reasons to use the python.org build. In short: If you want to use py2app and deploy to other versions of OS-X, then use the python.org build. If you want to easily install binaries that others build, there are more for the python.org build. If you upgrade packages that Apple provides, things may not work right, either for your code or Apple's. If you want IDLE, (and TK? ) then apparently you need the python.org version. So -- unless the download and install is onerous, or if you need the couple things Apple provides that are not open-source (I don't remember what they are -- googling should help), then I'd use the Python.org version -Chris -- Christopher Barker, Ph.D. Oceanographer Emergency Response Division NOAA/NOS/OR&R (206) 526-6959 voice 7600 Sand Point Way NE (206) 526-6329 fax Seattle, WA 98115 (206) 526-6317 main reception Chris.Barker(a)noaa.gov

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Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Macpython installation
by Christopher Barker Oct. 16, 2008

Oct. 16, 2008

Joe Strout wrote: > On Oct 16, 2008, at 2:34 PM, Christopher Barker wrote: >> However 2.5 is working out of the box for me on 10.4 anyway. > For my own curiosity, how do you invoke it? I've heard about IDLE but > haven't found any actual instructions for launching it yet. There is a *.app in Applications/MacPython 2.5 Though I don't actually use it, I only tested it just before I wrote that post. -Chris -- Christopher Barker, Ph.D. Oceanographer Emergency Response Division NOAA/NOS/OR&R (206) 526-6959 voice 7600 Sand Point Way NE (206) 526-6329 fax Seattle, WA 98115 (206) 526-6317 main reception Chris.Barker(a)noaa.gov

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Macpython installation
by otu＠iptech-ghana.com Oct. 16, 2008

Oct. 16, 2008

Dear sir, I am using a Mac, Processor- PowerPC G4, Memory- 384MB SDRAM Operating System- Mac OS X Version 10.3.9 I have installed MacPYthon , 2.3, 2.5 and lately 2.6. For all these versions I could not access the IDLE IDE. It was not that difficult in windows. What am I doing wrong? Please help Bennedy

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Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Py2app/modulegraph crashes on pkg_resources
by Christopher Barker Oct. 16, 2008

Oct. 16, 2008

David Eyk wrote: > /Users/deyk/code/py/spaaace/trunk/dist/bash.app/Contents/MacOS/bash > malformed object (unknown load command 8) > stripping saved 18312668 bytes (12069072 / 30381740) That may be a warning, rather than an error -- did you try running the app? I also thought that was fixed (a similar issue was) in the latest macholib -- did you update that too? This may be a problem that comes a goes, too -- make sure you delete "build" and "dist" and try again. -Chris -- Christopher Barker, Ph.D. Oceanographer Emergency Response Division NOAA/NOS/OR&R (206) 526-6959 voice 7600 Sand Point Way NE (206) 526-6329 fax Seattle, WA 98115 (206) 526-6317 main reception Chris.Barker(a)noaa.gov

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str.decode() behaves differently in 2.5 and 2.6
by has Oct. 15, 2008

Oct. 15, 2008

Hi folks, Figure I should check here before filing a bug. Anyone understand the following discrepancy between 2.5 and 2.6: $ python2.5 Python 2.5.1 (r251:54863, Jan 17 2008, 19:35:17) [GCC 4.0.1 (Apple Inc. build 5465)] on darwin Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information. >>> '\x41\x00'.decode('utf16') u'A' $ python2.6 Python 2.6 (trunk:66714:66715M, Oct 1 2008, 18:36:04) [GCC 4.0.1 (Apple Computer, Inc. build 5370)] on darwin Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information. >>> '\x41\x00'.decode('utf16') u'\u4100' OS X 10.5.5/i386 using default 2.5.1 Python installation vs. the Python 2.6 framework distribution from python.org. has -- Control AppleScriptable applications from Python, Ruby and ObjC: http://appscript.sourceforge.net

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Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Example of stand-alone NSRunLoop?
by Ronald Oussoren Oct. 15, 2008

Oct. 15, 2008

On Wednesday, October 15, 2008, at 11:25AM, "Jack Jansen" <Jack.Jansen(a)cwi.nl> wrote: > >On 15 okt 2008, at 05:34, Joe Strout wrote: >> # Now we need a NSRunLoop... >> runLoop = NSRunLoop.alloc() # note: no init() method? This is definitely wrong, you must always call some kind of init method after calling alloc. >> runLoop.run() > >I think allocating a runloop is hardly ever what you need: there's one >already, and you want to get that: > > runLoop = NSRunLoop.mainRunLoop() Or better yet: runLoop = NSRunLoop.currentRunLoop(). The difference is that mainRunLoop returns the run loop for the main thread, currentRunLoop returns the run loop for the current thread. Ronald

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Example of stand-alone NSRunLoop?
by Joe Strout Oct. 15, 2008

Oct. 15, 2008

I had great success using NSSpeechSynthesizer today, but my attempts to use NSSpeechRecognizer haven't gone nearly so well. Here's what I'm trying to do: ----- from Foundation import * import AppKit class SRDelegate(NSObject): def speechRecognizer_didRecognizeCommand_(self,sender,cmd): print "speechRecognizer_didRecognizeCommand_", cmd recog = AppKit.NSSpeechRecognizer.alloc().init() recog.setCommands_([u"red", u"green", u"blue"]) d = SRDelegate.alloc().init() recog.setDelegate_(d) print "Listening..." recog.startListening() # Now we need a NSRunLoop... runLoop = NSRunLoop.alloc() # note: no init() method? runLoop.run() ----- However, runLoop.run() returns immediately (or nearly so), instead of waiting. Reading the docs, this is expected behavior if the run loop doesn't have any "input sources," but I'm stumped in trying to give it one. Unfortunately, I'm even more of a newbie to Cocoa than I am to Python... can anyone share a clue? Thanks, - Joe

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Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] newbie questions about Mac APIs in Python
by Chris.Barker Oct. 14, 2008

Oct. 14, 2008

Joe Strout wrote: > But what if we want to do some of them from a > wxPython app (only when we detect we're running on a Mac, of course)? Good question -- can pyObjC play well with wx? Anyone know? -Chris -- Christopher Barker, Ph.D. Oceanographer Emergency Response Division NOAA/NOS/OR&R (206) 526-6959 voice 7600 Sand Point Way NE (206) 526-6329 fax Seattle, WA 98115 (206) 526-6317 main reception Chris.Barker(a)noaa.gov

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