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Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] distutils.errors.DistutilsFileError: file '/Library/Python/2.5/site-packages/setuptools-0.6c8-py2.5.egg/pkg_resources.pyc' does not exist
by Lukáš 'Spike' Polívka March 27, 2008

March 27, 2008

On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 5:23 PM, Nathan <nathan.stocks(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 6:22 AM, Lukáš 'Spike' Polívka > > <lukas.polivka(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 5:51 PM, Nathan <nathan.stocks(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > I think you ran into the same issue that I experienced: > > > > > > http://mail.python.org/pipermail/pythonmac-sig/2008-March/019791.html > > > > > > The same workaround may work for you. > > > > > > ~ Nathan > > > > > > > Where exactly did you put those sys.path.insert statements? site.py? > > > > Thanks, > > Lukáš > > Put it at the very top of your main script. The script that you're > turning into an app. It makes it so that when you double-click on the > .app and your script gets called from within the app, the first thing > your script does is alter the paths that it searches to import stuff > so that instead of having the in-app modules as lowest priority (last > in the search path), they're highest priority (first in the search > path). > > If it makes any difference, I was using the latest py2app installed > with the ez_setup script instructions from the installation section of > py2app's online docs. > > ~ Nathan > No luck, for some reason. What path do you suggest I should put there, if QtCore.so is placed in Jabbim.app/Contents/Resources/lib/python2.5/lib-dynload/PyQt4/? This is error log from Console: ImportError: '/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.5/lib/python2.5/lib-dynload/PyQt4/QtCore.so' not found PyQt4 is not installed. Traceback (most recent call last): File "/Users/spike411/jabbim-ng/dist/Jabbim.app/Contents/Resources/__boot__.py", line 137, in <module> _run('jabbim.py') File "/Users/spike411/jabbim-ng/dist/Jabbim.app/Contents/Resources/__boot__.py", line 134, in _run execfile(path, globals(), globals()) File "/Users/spike411/jabbim-ng/dist/Jabbim.app/Contents/Resources/jabbim.py", line 32, in <module> import qt4reactor File "qt4reactor.pyo", line 25, in <module> File "PyQt4/QtCore.pyo", line 18, in <module> File "PyQt4/QtCore.pyo", line 15, in __load ImportError: '/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.5/lib/python2.5/lib-dynload/PyQt4/QtCore.so' not found Lukáš -- IM (XMPP/Jabber/Google Talk): spike411(a)jabber.cz ICQ, AIM, MSN: Never ever!

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Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Using scripting bridge
by has March 27, 2008

March 27, 2008

Jan Erik Moström wrote: > I'm doing my first attempts in trying to use the scripting bridge > and I'm not very successful. I probably doesn't understand how to do > things at all and unfortunately I can't find any docs on how to do > things. Any particular reason for wanting to use Scripting Bridge? Appscript provides a native API, better application compatibility and decent support tools, so I'd suggest taking a look at that first. > My problem is that I don't understand how I should translate the > applescript commands to the equivalent python code. ASTranslate <http://appscript.sourceforge.net/tools.html> is very handy when trying to figure out how to convert an AppleScript command to its appscript equivalent. Type in an AppleScript command, run it, and ASTranslate will display the resulting Apple event as Python/Ruby code, which should give you a good clue as to what to write in your script. > Here is a small snippet that I can't translate > > on createMessageInMailsmith(subjectText, bodyText, recipientList, > accountName) > tell application "Mailsmith" > set nm to make new message window > tell nm > set subject to subjectText > set contents to bodyText > end tell > end tell > end createMessageInMailsmith In appscript, I imagine this would read something like: from appscript import * mailsmith = app('Mailsmith') nm = mailsmith.make(new=k.message_window) nm.subject.set(subjecttext) nm.contents.set(bodytext) HTH has -- Control AppleScriptable applications from Python, Ruby and ObjC: http://appscript.sourceforge.net

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Universal binary extensions questions [was: Re: suggestions for an appscript FAQ]
by has March 27, 2008

March 27, 2008

Jeremy Reichman wrote: > I just found out about appscript, and one of my early questions is > "can I > install it as a universal binary?" If I can't do that, my next > question is > "can I install it for both architectures simultaneously, on either > PowerPC > or Intel?" (I happen to do sys admin and would like to install it > once for > both architectures if possible.) This is more of a general distutils/setuptools/Mac Python question, and would be better covered by their FAQs if they aren't already. If anyone has links to those FAQs, let me know and I'll add them to the 'Getting more help' section of the appscript FAQ. To try to answer your question: it depends on what Python build you're installing it on and if it's a UB itself or not. OS X's default Python frameworks are a bit quirky in their build settings, e.g. Tiger's Python 2.3.5 is, IIRC, platform-specific; Leopard's Python 2.5 is a four-way UB, but its out-of-the-box configuration is a bit duff which causes some hassles for building UB extensions (I think they're two- way UB, but labelled by architecture). Third-party Python distributions may have different default build rules; if you're using one of those, you need to check yourself. FWIW, I currently provide 32-bit UBs of appscript 0.18.1 for Python 2.5.x as pre-built eggs, which you can install via setuptools' easy_install. The 'i386' and 'ppc' eggs are UBs built on Leopard Python, hence the wonky naming. The 'fat' egg is built with the official Mac Python distribution off python.org, but Leopard Python ignores it, which is why I have to distribute three eggs to do the same job instead of one <sigh>. There's also a source .tar.gz distribution which you can d/l and build yourself, or setuptools will use it automatically if it can't find a suitable egg for your Python distribution. Anyway, other folks here know more about this stuff than I do, so hopefully they can chip in with more information if you want to provide more details about your setup. HTH has -- Control AppleScriptable applications from Python, Ruby and ObjC: http://appscript.sourceforge.net

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Using scripting bridge
by Jan Erik Moströ m March 27, 2008

March 27, 2008

I'm doing my first attempts in trying to use the scripting bridge and I'm not very successful. I probably doesn't understand how to do things at all and unfortunately I can't find any docs on how to do things. What I want to do is basically to do some data processing using python and then control various applications and insert data into them. My first attempt is to be able to script Mailsmith. My problem is that I don't understand how I should translate the applescript commands to the equivalent python code. If someone could give me some hints or point me to some documentation of how to how to do this translation I would be grateful. Here is a small snippet that I can't translate on createMessageInMailsmith(subjectText, bodyText, recipientList, accountName) tell application "Mailsmith" set nm to make new message window tell nm set subject to subjectText set contents to bodyText end tell end tell end createMessageInMailsmith unfortunately I don't get much further than #! /usr/bin/env python from Foundation import * from ScriptingBridge import * mailsmith = SBApplication.applicationWithBundleIdentifier_('com.barebones.mailsmith') def createemail( account, recipients, subject, body, queue = False ): mailsmith.makeNewMessageWindow() createemail( 'jobbet', 'Some subject', 'body text') jem -- Jan Erik Moström, www.mostrom.pp.se

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suggestions for an appscript FAQ
by has March 26, 2008

March 26, 2008

Hi all, As part of the current upgrade of the appscript website, I'm putting together a list of topics for an appscript FAQ, and wondering if anyone has any requests or suggestions for topics it should cover? Both Python/Ruby/ObjC-specific and general topic ideas are welcome. Here's what I've got so far; feel free to suggest changes to this list as well: -------------------------------------------------------------- APPSCRIPT FAQ 1a. What is appscript? 1b. What is AppleScript? 1c. What is a scriptable application? 1d. How does application scripting work? 1e. What are Apple events? 1f. What is an OSA language? 2a. What can appscript do? 2b. What can't appscript do? 2c. Can I use appscript to write Mail rules/folder actions/iCal alarms/ etc.? 3a. Is appscript object-oriented? 3b. But appscript code looks object-oriented, just like regular Python/ Ruby/ObjC code. What's the difference? 3c. Why doesn't the following code - e.g. app('TextEdit').documents[1].text - return the value (e.g. text) that I expected? 3d. What's with all the 'get()'s and 'set()'s? 3e. But AppleScript doesn't require 'get', nor does regular Python/ Ruby/ObjC code. Couldn't appscript just get values automatically? 3f. And why can't I just use '=' to set values, just like regular Python/Ruby code? 4a. Is appscript better than AppleScript? 4b. Is appscript better than Scripting Bridge? 4c. Is appscript available for [your-favourite-language-here]? 4d. What are appscript's future plans? -------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks, has -- Control AppleScriptable applications from Python, Ruby and ObjC: http://appscript.sourceforge.net

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py2app create folder in resources
by L. Fanchi March 24, 2008

March 24, 2008

Hello, I'm creating an app which needs additional resources. I'd like to put these resources in a folder in the /Resources in the .app, but I'm having trouble doing so.. My setup.py looks like this: if sys.platform == 'darwin': setup( app=["avgui.py"], name="AutoViewerGUI", setup_requires=["py2app"], options=dict(py2app=dict( plist='Info.plist', resources='essentials/', iconfile='avgui.icns', )), ) As you can see, I'm trying to include the 'essentials' folder to the app, but instead of adding the folder itself, py2app adds the files inside the folder. Is there a way of making py2app recreate the 'essentials' folder inside the Resources folder in the app, instead of just copying the files to it? Thanks in advance!

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QT３ and py2app problem
by Patrick Kenny March 21, 2008

March 21, 2008

Greetings, I am trying to build the application Mnemosyne (www.mnemosyne-proj.org) using py2app on 10.5.2. With the command python setup.py py2app, the application compiles, but when I try to run it I receive the following error: 08/03/16 23:49:08 mnemosyne[1574] mnemosyne Error An unexpected error has occurred during execution of the main script ImportError: Failure linking new module: /Users/patrick/Desktop/mnemosyn e-1.0.1/dist/mnemosyne.app/Contents/Resources/lib/python2.4/lib-dynload/qt.so: Library not loaded: libqt.3.dylib Referenced from: /Users/patrick/Desktop/mnemosyne-1.0.1 /dist/mnemosyne.app/Contents/Resources/lib/python2.4/lib-dynload/qt.so Reason: image not found I tried to include the QT library myself, using the -f /Developer/qt/lib/libqt.3.dylib flag, and I got this error: copying build/bdist.macosx-10.3-fat/python2.4-standalone/app/site- packages.zip -> /Users/patrick/Desktop/mnemosyne-1.0.1 /dist/mnemosyne.app/Contents/Resources/lib/python2.4 copying /Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.4/Python -> /Users/patrick/Desktop/mnemosyne-1.0.1 /dist/mnemosyne.app/Contents/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.4 copying /Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.4/Resources/Info.plist -> /Users/patrick/Desktop/mnemosyne-1.0.1 /dist/mnemosyne.app/Contents/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.4/Resources copying /Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.4/Resources/version.plist -> /Users/patrick/Desktop/mnemosyne-1.0.1 /dist/mnemosyne.app/Contents/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.4/Resources copying /Developer/qt/lib/libqt.3.dylib -> /Users/patrick/Desktop/mnemosyne- 1.0.1/dist/mnemosyne.app/Contents/Frameworks Traceback (most recent call last): File "/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.4/lib/python2.4/site-packages/py2app- 0.3.6-py2.4.egg/py2app/build_app.py", line 548, in _run self.run_normal() File "/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.4/lib/python2.4/site-packages/py2app- 0.3.6-py2.4.egg/py2app/build_app.py", line 619, in run_normal self.create_binaries(py_files, pkgdirs, extensions, loader_files) File "/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.4/lib/python2.4/site-packages/py2app- 0.3.6-py2.4.egg/py2app/build_app.py", line 731, in create_binaries mm.mm.run_file(fmwk) File "/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.4/lib/python2.4/site-packages/macholib- 1.1-py2.4.egg/macholib/MachOGraph.py", line 66, in run_file File "/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.4/lib/python2.4/site-packages/macholib- 1.1-py2.4.egg/macholib/MachOStandalone.py", line 23, in createNode File "/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.4/lib/python2.4/site-packages/altgraph- 0.6.7-py2.4.egg/altgraph/ObjectGraph.py", line 148, in createNode File "/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.4/lib/python2.4/site-packages/macholib- 1.1-py2.4.egg/macholib/MachO.py", line 61, in __init__ File "/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.4/lib/python2.4/site-packages/macholib- 1.1-py2.4.egg/macholib/MachO.py", line 76, in load File "/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.4/lib/python2.4/site-packages/macholib- 1.1-py2.4.egg/macholib/MachO.py", line 106, in load_header File "/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.4/lib/python2.4/site-packages/macholib- 1.1-py2.4.egg/macholib/MachO.py", line 146, in __init__ File "/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.4/lib/python2.4/site-packages/macholib- 1.1-py2.4.egg/macholib/MachO.py", line 178, in load ValueError: Unknown load command: 30 > /Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.4/lib/python2.4/site-packages/macholib- 1.1-py2.4.egg/macholib/MachO.py(178)load() How can I include the qt3 library so that the app can read it? Thanks in advance. Regards, --Patrick

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Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Unicode path problems (was: Re: suggestions for an appscript FAQ)
by has March 19, 2008

March 19, 2008

Henning Hraban Ramm wrote: >> I struggled a lot with paths containing non-ASCII characters. >> Hmmm. Is this with the 0.18.1 release? Do you get the same problem >> with the current appscript trunk? > > Sorry - since yesterday it works (with 0.18.1). > Some problems with appscript seem to appear or disappear > unreproducable. :-( > > E.g. I had big problems with Finder labels - often got "16393" as > label_index for some tries, until finally the right number showed > up. Can't reproduce that any more, without changing my installation. Sounds very odd. Doubt the problem is coming from appscript itself, unless its installation has gotten screwed up. You might check that any older versions have been completely removed, doing a thorough cleanout and fresh reinstall if needed. Also, where a problem is encountered, try running the equivalent AppleScript to see if the problem occurs there as well. > As I posted before, it was a bit hard to find out where to apply > which unicode conversion to file paths. (And before you advised me > about mactypes I tried to convert Unix to Mac paths myself, which > didn't always work.) > > This way works for me, hopefully it will last: > > myfile = mactypes.Alias(os.path.abspath(unicodedata.normalize('NFD', > unicode(sys.argv[1], 'utf-8')))) I'll need to look into normalisation issues when I've time, although I would've assumed the filesystem APIs would apply any necessary normalisation at their end. >>> << 1 >> >>> Why does this work: >>> document = InDesign.make(new=k.document) >>> document.save(to=ComposedFile(path)) >>> >>> but not this: >>> document = >>> InDesign.make(new=k.document).save(to=ComposedFile(path)) >> >> Seems to work on CS3. What are you expecting it to do vs. what is it >> actually doing? > > If I chained it, it just wouldn't save. > Again: can't reproduce the error. The two above examples create and save the document in exactly the same way. Python+appscript isn't like AppleScript, where the interpreter inserts magic behaviours between lines. Could be something else in your setup is acting up, resulting in hard-to-trace errors cropping up elsewhere. > I guess my path wasn't perfectly converted until today or something > like that. > (Or could it depend on TerminologyServer running? Will check that > tomorrow.) TerminologyServer is long, long gone. If you've still got a copy kicking around then you definitely need to do some cleaning-up. :) >>> << 2 >> >>> Why is Finder.copy not (yet) implemented? Will it soon? >> >> Application-specific problems are outside the scope of appscript's >> FAQ, but I'm going to add a "I'm having trouble scripting <name of >> app>. What do I do now?" topic (suggested on rb-appscript-discuss) >> pointing users to appropriate forums (AppleScript-users, etc.) as a >> general cover-all. > > Ok, perhaps you could answer generally, why some items are "NOT > AVAILABLE (YET)". > Or did I overlook that somewhere? Who can explain what goes on in application developers' heads? These commands were supported in Finder on OS 9, but weren't re-implemented when it was ported over to OS X. For whatever reason, the Finder developers left the dictionary definitions in instead of doing the obvious and sensible thing which would be to hide or remove them. One of the few consistencies in scriptable applications, particularly Carbon ones, is that they are inconsistent. > I think the worst problem with appscript is the "strange behaviour" > id you're used to either linear or object oriented or really > asynchronous code - appscript looks like linear & object oriented, > but is "a bit" asynchronous (but not like twisted's Deferreds) and > instead of "real" objects you get those dynamic references. The OO-like syntax can be misleading for newcomers, but dressing up query-driven APIs in OO-ish syntax for conciseness and readability isn't unique to appscript; e.g. SQLObject. The key to 'getting' appscript is realising that Mac application scripting is based on RPC +queries, and what that implies. The problem is a communication one: either folks aren't reading the appscript documentation, or they aren't understanding it. I know that some folk fall into the first trap (they look at existing code samples, and assume that since it looks like OOP, which they already know, it must behave like it as well), and I've no doubt that others fall into the second (since my writing is less than stellar). Any suggestions on how to address either of these problems will be very welcome. > Additionally every application behaves differently and you've to > find out what works how (or not) - or how they call something > internally what you know with some (translated) name from GUI and > manual... Lousy API documentation is a chronic problem amongst scriptable applications. File feature requests with application developers asking for improved documentation. The more users raise this issue, the likelier it is that developers will address it. Cheers, has -- Control AppleScriptable applications from Python, Ruby and ObjC: http://appscript.sourceforge.net

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problem with QT3 and py2app
by Patrick Kenny March 17, 2008

March 17, 2008

Greetings, I am trying to build the application Mnemosyne (www.mnemosyne-proj.org) using py2app on 10.5.2. With the command python setup.py py2app, the application compiles, but when I try to run it I receive the following error: 08/03/16 23:49:08 mnemosyne[1574] mnemosyne Error An unexpected error has occurred during execution of the main script ImportError: Failure linking new module: /Users/patrick/Desktop/mnemosyn e-1.0.1/dist/mnemosyne.app/Contents/Resources/lib/python2.4/lib-dynload/qt.so: Library not loaded: libqt.3.dylib Referenced from: /Users/patrick/Desktop/mnemosyne-1.0.1 /dist/mnemosyne.app/Contents/Resources/lib/python2.4/lib-dynload/qt.so Reason: image not found I tried to include the QT library myself, using the -f /Developer/qt/lib/libqt.3.dylib flag, and I got this error: copying build/bdist.macosx-10.3-fat/python2.4-standalone/app/site- packages.zip -> /Users/patrick/Desktop/mnemosyne-1.0.1 /dist/mnemosyne.app/Contents/Resources/lib/python2.4 copying /Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.4/Python -> /Users/patrick/Desktop/mnemosyne-1.0.1 /dist/mnemosyne.app/Contents/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.4 copying /Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.4/Resources/Info.plist -> /Users/patrick/Desktop/mnemosyne-1.0.1 /dist/mnemosyne.app/Contents/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.4/Resources copying /Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.4/Resources/version.plist -> /Users/patrick/Desktop/mnemosyne-1.0.1 /dist/mnemosyne.app/Contents/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.4/Resources copying /Developer/qt/lib/libqt.3.dylib -> /Users/patrick/Desktop/mnemosyne- 1.0.1/dist/mnemosyne.app/Contents/Frameworks Traceback (most recent call last): File "/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.4/lib/python2.4/site-packages/py2app- 0.3.6-py2.4.egg/py2app/build_app.py", line 548, in _run self.run_normal() File "/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.4/lib/python2.4/site-packages/py2app- 0.3.6-py2.4.egg/py2app/build_app.py", line 619, in run_normal self.create_binaries(py_files, pkgdirs, extensions, loader_files) File "/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.4/lib/python2.4/site-packages/py2app- 0.3.6-py2.4.egg/py2app/build_app.py", line 731, in create_binaries mm.mm.run_file(fmwk) File "/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.4/lib/python2.4/site-packages/macholib- 1.1-py2.4.egg/macholib/MachOGraph.py", line 66, in run_file File "/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.4/lib/python2.4/site-packages/macholib- 1.1-py2.4.egg/macholib/MachOStandalone.py", line 23, in createNode File "/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.4/lib/python2.4/site-packages/altgraph- 0.6.7-py2.4.egg/altgraph/ObjectGraph.py", line 148, in createNode File "/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.4/lib/python2.4/site-packages/macholib- 1.1-py2.4.egg/macholib/MachO.py", line 61, in __init__ File "/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.4/lib/python2.4/site-packages/macholib- 1.1-py2.4.egg/macholib/MachO.py", line 76, in load File "/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.4/lib/python2.4/site-packages/macholib- 1.1-py2.4.egg/macholib/MachO.py", line 106, in load_header File "/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.4/lib/python2.4/site-packages/macholib- 1.1-py2.4.egg/macholib/MachO.py", line 146, in __init__ File "/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.4/lib/python2.4/site-packages/macholib- 1.1-py2.4.egg/macholib/MachO.py", line 178, in load ValueError: Unknown load command: 30 > /Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.4/lib/python2.4/site-packages/macholib- 1.1-py2.4.egg/macholib/MachO.py(178)load() How can I include the qt3 library so that the app can read it? Thanks in advance. Regards, --Patrick

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Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] suggestions for an appscript FAQ
by has March 15, 2008

March 15, 2008

Henning Hraban Ramm wrote: > Perhaps more FAQs: > > << 1 >> > Why does this work: > document = InDesign.make(new=k.document) > document.save(to=ComposedFile(path)) > > but not this: > document = InDesign.make(new=k.document).save(to=ComposedFile(path)) Seems to work on CS3. What are you expecting it to do vs. what is it actually doing? > << 2 >> > Why is Finder.copy not (yet) implemented? Will it soon? Application-specific problems are outside the scope of appscript's FAQ, but I'm going to add a "I'm having trouble scripting <name of app>. What do I do now?" topic (suggested on rb-appscript-discuss) pointing users to appropriate forums (AppleScript-users, etc.) as a general cover-all. > << 3 >> > Is there a generic and simple way of checking the "type" of an item > (e.g. Finder item, InDesign page_item)? > E.g. I need to check if a Finder item is a folder or if a ID > page_item is a text or a graphics frame. > > type(item) is always <class 'appscript.reference.Reference'> > Answer for InDesign: item.class_() Definitely needs disambiguation. Added to the list, thanks. has -- Control AppleScriptable applications from Python, Ruby and ObjC: http://appscript.sourceforge.net

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