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Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] getting beta 2 out the door on Apple systems
by Ronald Oussoren July 16, 2008

July 16, 2008

I've attached patches to both issue 3226 and issue 3381, both of which are related to building Python 2.6 on Tiger. I cannot test on Tiger though, could someone please test and review these patches? Ronald On 16 Jul, 2008, at 18:10, Bill Janssen wrote: > I'd urge everyone interested in newer versions of Python on Apple > hardware to read and help with Barry's message, which I reproduce > liberally below. > > A total of about 6 "deferred blockers". > > Specifically, there's an OS X issue: > > http://bugs.python.org/issue3226 > > ``Mac/Makefile.in uses the arch command which doesn't have the > ability to run a given architecture in 10.4 like it does in > 10.5. Hence, the install fails.'' > > Bill > >> On Jul 15, 2008, at 8:32 AM, Barry Warsaw wrote: >> >>> If there is anything you need a decision on, please follow up to >>> this thread. I'm inundated with email so I can't watch every thread >>> on the mailing lists. Or ping me on #python-dev. >> >> I'm not currently optimistic that we can release today. >> >> As I see it we have several problems serious enough to delay a >> release. First, we have no green 2.6 or 3.0 buildbots >> >> http://www.python.org/dev/buildbot/stable/ >> >> It looks like few of the buildbots for 2.6 are actually online, but >> still, the 3.0 buildbots are all failing. >> >> We still have, and have had for a long time now, serious problems >> with >> the multiprocessing module: >> >> http://bugs.python.org/issue?@columns=title,id,activity,versions,status&@so… >> >> I noticed today that _multiprocessing.so has build problems on OS X >> 10.5 and Ubuntu 8.04. I opened a separate issue about that so as not >> to get lost in the other bug about test_multiprocessing hanging. As >> evidenced by the thread for issue 3088, lots of people have put a lot >> of work into this module, but unfortunately we're still not there. >> These seem serious enough to me to hold up the release, especially >> since we have only one more beta left. >> >> Speaking of which, we have a number of deferred blockers: >> >> http://bugs.python.org/issue?@columns=title,id,activity,status&@sort=activi… >> >> These will not block beta 2, but they /will/ block beta 3, so they >> really need some attention. >> >> Please everyone, if you have only a little bit of time to work on >> Python, I hope you will attack the release critical and deferred >> blocker issues, and work on turning the buildbots green. These are >> the top priorities in order to get 2.6 and 3.0 out on time. And just >> as added incentive, our October 1st goal is being noted by downstream >> vendors. I've been told that "Apple is willing to take the new >> Python >> if it is GM on schedule by Oct 1st, but may not if it is delayed" >> though you should not infer anything about Apple's schedule from >> this. >> >> Still, we won't sacrifice quality in order to hit the October 1st >> goal. After beta 2, I start getting mean. :) >> > _______________________________________________ > Pythonmac-SIG maillist - Pythonmac-SIG(a)python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pythonmac-sig

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getting beta 2 out the door on Apple systems
by Bill Janssen July 16, 2008

July 16, 2008

I'd urge everyone interested in newer versions of Python on Apple hardware to read and help with Barry's message, which I reproduce liberally below. A total of about 6 "deferred blockers". Specifically, there's an OS X issue: http://bugs.python.org/issue3226 ``Mac/Makefile.in uses the arch command which doesn't have the ability to run a given architecture in 10.4 like it does in 10.5. Hence, the install fails.'' Bill > On Jul 15, 2008, at 8:32 AM, Barry Warsaw wrote: > > > If there is anything you need a decision on, please follow up to > > this thread. I'm inundated with email so I can't watch every thread > > on the mailing lists. Or ping me on #python-dev. > > I'm not currently optimistic that we can release today. > > As I see it we have several problems serious enough to delay a > release. First, we have no green 2.6 or 3.0 buildbots > > http://www.python.org/dev/buildbot/stable/ > > It looks like few of the buildbots for 2.6 are actually online, but > still, the 3.0 buildbots are all failing. > > We still have, and have had for a long time now, serious problems with > the multiprocessing module: > > http://bugs.python.org/issue?@columns=title,id,activity,versions,status&@so… > > I noticed today that _multiprocessing.so has build problems on OS X > 10.5 and Ubuntu 8.04. I opened a separate issue about that so as not > to get lost in the other bug about test_multiprocessing hanging. As > evidenced by the thread for issue 3088, lots of people have put a lot > of work into this module, but unfortunately we're still not there. > These seem serious enough to me to hold up the release, especially > since we have only one more beta left. > > Speaking of which, we have a number of deferred blockers: > > http://bugs.python.org/issue?@columns=title,id,activity,status&@sort=activi… > > These will not block beta 2, but they /will/ block beta 3, so they > really need some attention. > > Please everyone, if you have only a little bit of time to work on > Python, I hope you will attack the release critical and deferred > blocker issues, and work on turning the buildbots green. These are > the top priorities in order to get 2.6 and 3.0 out on time. And just > as added incentive, our October 1st goal is being noted by downstream > vendors. I've been told that "Apple is willing to take the new Python > if it is GM on schedule by Oct 1st, but may not if it is delayed" > though you should not infer anything about Apple's schedule from this. > > Still, we won't sacrifice quality in order to hit the October 1st > goal. After beta 2, I start getting mean. :) >

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Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] py2app creates 90 MB .app
by Christopher Barker July 15, 2008

July 15, 2008

Markus wrote: > I resolved this issue but my mail with the solution was not posted to > the list I expect. (Still wondering why.) Is it correct that you replied > to me privately and not using the list? That was an accident -- this list is set to default reply to the sender only, and I neglected to hit "reply all". > Here is the solution: > The command line tool "strip" was missing on my machine. After > installing strip (Apple Development Tools), py2app stripped the size to > 47 MB which is half the original size! Zipped it is about 16 MB. Ah -- that does seem to do the trick! Impressive reduction! > According to several reports (including your report) this size seems > perfectly OK now. yup, it's big, but expected for a large Universal lib. > PS: Although it might be unusual not to have these tools installed, a > hint somewhere in the documentation -- if there is not one already -- > could be helpful for newbies like me. Yes, it would. Just in case, I've posted this to the list, so it will be in the archives. -Chris -- Christopher Barker, Ph.D. Oceanographer Emergency Response Division NOAA/NOS/OR&R (206) 526-6959 voice 7600 Sand Point Way NE (206) 526-6329 fax Seattle, WA 98115 (206) 526-6317 main reception Chris.Barker(a)noaa.gov

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py2app, svn 1.5 and macholib
by David A Krauth July 15, 2008

July 15, 2008

Upon a recent upgrade to Leopard, I was having significant difficulties in producing a .app from py2app (wxPython-based), where I had had no trouble previously. In the interim, I had upgraded from Tiger, and from the default Apple build of 2.5.1 to MacPython 2.5.2. One of my stumbling blocks was when I received the following error: global name 'log' is not define in setuputils/command/sdist.py:98 (setuptools-0.6c8-py2.5.egg), in function entries_finder: log.warn("unrecognized .svn/entries format in %s", dirname) It appears that: a) logging hasn't been properly imported b) that due to the recent changes in Subversion 1.5 metadata schema, the "entries_find" can no longer yield a correct result I'm really not sure who I should report this to or where to submit the bug. Instead, I reverted back to svn client 1.4.4 (which I wanted to do anyways, since 1.5 also broke on of my favorite TextMate plugins, SVNMate). Another stumbling block was an exception I receive from the MachO lib: ValueError: Unknown load command: 27 I decided to upgrade py2app and it's dependencies all to trunk versions to see if I fared any better: svn co http://svn.pythonmac.org/macholib/macholib/trunk macho cd macho easy_install -Z . cd .. svn co http://svn.pythonmac.org/altgraph/altgraph/trunk/ altgraph cd altgraph/ easy_install -Z . cd .. svn co http://svn.pythonmac.org/modulegraph/modulegraph/trunk/ modulegraph cd modulegraph/ easy_install -Z . cd .. svn co http://svn.pythonmac.org/py2app/py2app/trunk py2app cd py2app/ easy_install -Z . cd .. This seemed to hit the sweet stop - my build worked and executed as desired. -David David A. Krauth http://dakrauth.com

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py2app & PIL
by Mariano Di Felice July 14, 2008

July 14, 2008

Hi, I have a simple app called test.py as follow: import Image import traceback try: print "IMAGE: %s" % Image print "DIR: %s" % dir(Image) pil = Image.new("RGB", (300,300)) pil.save("test.jpg") except: traceback.print_exc() and I've created a setup.py for py2app creation app: import os from setuptools import setup packageroot = "/Users/rikorda/Desktop/test" APP = ['test.py'] DATA_FILES = [] packages = [] includes = [] py2app_options = dict( site_packages=True, includes=includes, packages=packages, optimize=1, compressed=True, ) setup( app=APP, options=dict( py2app=py2app_options, ), setup_requires=['py2app'], ) well, compilation and app creation works fine, but when I run the app, I have this error: ImportError: The imaging C module is not installed (during execution of Image.new ) I've tried to include package PIL, adding it to packages viriable: packages = ['PIL'] but I obtain: No module named Image I compile this app in my minimac with Lepard 10.5.4 OS, and I use python2.5 and PIL 1.1.6 compiled from source ( because I need an UniversalBinary app, then I've downloaded freetype2.3.5 and jpeg6b source and I've compiled it with CFLAG -arch ppc -arch i386 ). This problem is revelead when I run my app in another Mac ( where there's no library installed ). I've tried install ready dmg PIL from here ( http://pythonmac.org/packages/py25-fat/dmg/PIL-1.1.6-py2.5-macosx10.4-2007-… ), but I obtain a strange error FT_Load_Glyph.... Please help me, I have no more ideas about.... thx

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py2app creates 90 MB .app
by Markus July 13, 2008

July 13, 2008

Hi, My application depends on Python and wxPython. I am creating a .app- file with py2app under Leopard. Python 2.5.2 and wxPython 2.8.8.0. The file size of the app is 90 MB for "python setup.py py2app": Frameworks/libwx_macud-2.8.0.dylib is 21 MB Frameworks/Python.framework is 5 MB Resources/lib/python2.5/lib-dynload/wx is 61 MB If I remember correctly that the file size used to be around 15-30 MB when I used the prepackaged Python, wxPython and py2app. Which would match the size with the listed frameworks but without the wx folder within "Resources". Seems to me like it is packaged twice. The file size of the app is 75 MB for "python setup.py py2app -s": Frameworks/libwx_macud-2.8.0.dylib is 21 MB Frameworks/Python.framework is NOT present Resources/lib/python2.5/ is 53 MB Excluding wx with "python setup.py py2app -e wx" results in a file 15 MB in size (which does not work). When I use py2exe the resulting file is 10 MB in size. I found a similar discussion but was not able to extract any solution: http://lists.wxwidgets.org/pipermail/wxpython-users/2007-March/062320.html Any help appreciated. Regards, Markus

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Using NSViewAnimation
by Dinu Gherman July 12, 2008

July 12, 2008

Hi, I'm trying for the first time to use NSViewAnimation in an NSView.mouseDown_() method like in this code below: def mouseDown_(self, event): "Animate frame expansion." viewFrame = self.frame() newFrame = ( (viewFrame[0][0]-5, viewFrame[0][1]-5), (viewFrame[1][0]+10, viewFrame[1][1]+10) ) viewDict = { NSViewAnimationTargetKey: self, NSViewAnimationStartFrameKey: viewFrame, NSViewAnimationEndFrameKey: newFrame, } anim = NSViewAnimation.alloc().initWithViewAnimations_([viewDict]) anim.setDuration_(1.0) anim.setAnimationCurve_(NSAnimationEaseIn) anim.startAnimation() # anim.release() But when klicking an item I get an exception like this: Traceback (most recent call last): File "simpleedit0.py", line 225, in <module> main() File "simpleedit0.py", line 221, in main AppHelper.runEventLoop() File "/usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/PyObjC/PyObjCTools/ AppHelper.py", line 237, in runEventLoop NSApp().run() ValueError: NSInvalidArgumentException - Class OC_PythonObject: no such selector: rectValue Has anybody else used NSViewAnimation successfully? Or could a reason for this be the fact that I'm using a single Python script without any Xcode or NIB files? Thanks, Dinu

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py2app, optimize=2, and __debug__
by Kevin Watters July 9, 2008

July 9, 2008

When I enable optimize=2 for our app, py2app successfully compiles all the Python to .PYO files, but the .app it creates fails at the very first import in __boot__.py. With some log statements, I see that __debug__ is still True when I run the .app -- which explains why Python will not find the standard library. __debug__ has to be off for Python to read PYOs. Do I need to inject -OO into the execution of the Python process manually, somehow? I didn't see the right place to do it in main.c, but I'm sure there's a way. Has anyone else tried py2app's optimize flag?

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py2app and svn
by Clifford Meece July 7, 2008

July 7, 2008

Hi, This isn't a question about py2app per se, but more around development practices. I have a small app written in python and wxpython. I have successfully used py2app to make re-distributable packages for my code. Now I have decided to commit my work to svn to track my changes and protect my time investment. My question is: how do people generally handle commits of the build and dist directory? Initially I just committed my working directory so I have my source and my build/* and dist/* in svn, which is probably not necessary. What kind of build and release process is 'typical' with a py2app-based project? should I keep my source in a seperate directory and just commit it? After I build, should I then commit the resulting packaged .app? Any experiences, practices or opinions would help. thanks, Cliff

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[pygame][py2app] strange behaviour with mixer.music
by pdorange＠mac.com July 6, 2008

July 6, 2008

note : fu2 gmane.comp.python.pygame I currently develop my first small game with python on MacOS X. i add a background music and it works fine with python interpreted. Bu now when a build my bundle (with py2app), it bundle broke when loading the music with a strange error message. The source code : import os, pygame from pygame.locals import * pygame.init() [...] pygame.mixer.music.load(fname) pygame.mixer.music.set_volume(pref.musicvolume) pygame.mixer.music.play(-1) Works interpreted. Broke when bundled with py2app : File "/Volumes/Documents/PAD/Dev/PyGame/MicroWar/Source/dist/MicroWar.app/Con tents/Resources/microwar.py", line 1721, in main pygame.mixer.music.load(fname) AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'music' 2008-07-05 13:30:40.741 MicroWar[918] MicroWar Error 2008-07-05 13:30:40.741 MicroWar[918] MicroWar Error An unexpected error has occurred during execution of the main script AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'music'

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