Timeline for Why do we need the concept of knowledge, not just beliefs?
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| yesterday | comment | added | Groovy | @Mutoh I said - " if tiger is real and the roar nearby means a tiger, and you won't care" I didn't say "you think it's another predator" I said "you won't care" Learn to read ffs, or don't waste my time | |
| yesterday | comment | added | Mutoh | @Groovy if you believe it's a lion when it's a tiger, your belief is false. Therefore, it's not knowledge. Since it doesn't matter, then you're actually in agreement with OP: we don't need the concept of knowledge, beliefs are sufficient. | |
| yesterday | comment | added | Groovy | @Mutoh lion or tiger - doesn't matter. But nothing or tiger is a big difference. and that's what I was obviously talking about - surely not about specific species of predators, it's not obvious lol? | |
| yesterday | comment | added | Mutoh | You don't need to believe in the existence of the tiger to survive the tiger. If you mistakenly believe it's a lion instead you'll avoid it all the same. This is why taboos and superstitions have staying power without necessarily being true. | |
| 2 days ago | comment | added | kutschkem | @ScottRowe So much worse, it works by not dying young. | |
| Aug 30 at 20:27 | comment | added | SystemTheory | @ScottRowe - The Outlaw Jose Wales (1976). Jose Wales: Why did you become a bounty hunter? Bounty Hunter: A man's got to earn a living! Jose Wales: Dying ain't much of a living, boy! In my view we crave knowledge to gain and keep vital-pleasure and in the process we try to identify and eliminate causes of disease, disability, and feelings of unwanted persistent pain. Atheists think it is a waste of time to contemplate the Living God as an invisible source of vitality: the ability to live. Yet one encounters The Great Mystery if one seeks to know the ultimate source of vital-pleasure! | |
| Aug 30 at 19:30 | comment | added | Scott Rowe | Yes, apparently we can be taught by falsehood, but truth remains in many cases silent, like God. That's probably why evolution works by not dying rather than being correct. | |
| Aug 30 at 17:23 | comment | added | SystemTheory | Scientific knowledge becomes shared belief. I believe, for example, that balls will roll down a smooth inclined ramp and across a horizontal surface in the same pattern laid down by Galileo when he compared the motion of rolling balls to the motion of a simple pendulum. So-called external reality does and does not justify my belief in scientific knowledge because experiments and observations never prove any natural law or relationship. Each observation only fails to disprove the expected outcome (belief). My memories of natural events and social relations may or may not correspond to reality. | |
| Aug 30 at 15:35 | comment | added | Groovy | @mdkovachev Not quite. Both are aligned with reality in that one instance, but only justified beliefs are aligned with reality in a repeatable, reliable way. Knowledge adds resilience and predictability, while mere true belief can collapse as soon as the environment shifts or luck runs out | |
| Aug 30 at 14:27 | comment | added | mdkovachev | This answers the "truth" part but how is justification relevant? An unjustified but true belief would be just as aligned with reality as a justified true one. | |
| Aug 30 at 13:06 | history | edited | Groovy | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Aug 30 at 13:00 | history | answered | Groovy | CC BY-SA 4.0 |