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python <==> ado
by Gerald Bachlmayr Jan. 25, 2000

Jan. 25, 2000

hi! i would like to connect to an sqlserver 7.0 database with ado. the database is on a different pc on the network. does anyone know the command to get a connection? (i just found odbc etc.) gerry -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Richard Brodie [mailto:R.Brodie@rl.ac.uk] Gesendet: Tuesday, January 25, 2000 12:10 PM An: python-list(a)python.org Betreff: Re: tabs do WHAT? "Thomas Hamelryck" <thamelry(a)vub.ac.be> wrote in message news:86joac$l2s$1@mach.vub.ac.be... > BTW, people here seem to have adopted the idea that if you don't like > a particular feature of a language, you should abandon it (e.g., "You > don't like indentation? Use Perl!"). Adding features to a language always seems easy but that is the best reason for not doing so. There is the temptation to make the language the union of all the desired features. It's all been talked around before, and Guido has said what his feelings are. In the end, I think you've either got to respect that decision, or fork the language. > You can find a very nice description of this process with respect to C++ > in "The Evolution of C++ : Language Design in the Marketplace of Ideas", > by Jim Waldo (Editor), James Waldo (Editor). C++ has to be the classic case of a language that evolved rather than was designed: PDP-11 assembler with OO bits tacked on. If we can learn something from its evolution, it should be not to do the same again. 'Oh, that way madness lies; let me shun that.' - King Lear -- http://www.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

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Re: ( 2.31.New operators: 'eq', 'ne', 'last', '..' ) ?
by François Pinard Jan. 25, 2000

Jan. 25, 2000

Stefan Schwarzer <s.schwarzer(a)ndh.net> writes: > The only programming languages I (personally) know to pay attention > to amount of whitespace are Fortran, Assembler and Python ;-) . For most of the remaining languages, any good programmer has to pay attention to the amount of whitespace him/herself, because nicely presented programs are a good thing. Any serious programmer has to take care anyway. This being given, compilers should really validate and diagnose wrong or inconsistent indentation, in my opinion. It is a pity to see such amounts of programmer-added redundancy to be thrown away and wasted by compilers. I believed in the above for years, and unsuccessfully tried to convince the GNU project to amend their C compiler accordingly. So, when I re-discovered Python, not so long ago, it was a real and deep pleasure for me to see this particular aspect of programming, correct indentation, so well integrated in the language. To be honest, I just do not understand the big fuss some people do about whitespace in Python. They are all given a very nice gift, and it makes their misery. I shudder to think what their sources would look like, if they really consider that indentation is a curse. I like the idea that Python programs have readability on their side from the start, by design. -- François Pinard http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/~pinard

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Embedding Python in C-code??
by Thomas Weholt Jan. 25, 2000

Jan. 25, 2000

Hi, Just wondered, and it`s probably stupid, if it`s possible to use python code/objects/modules from a C++/C-program. I mean, Glade and alot of other GUI-builders are aimed at C/C++ development. If we could somehow use Python as foundation and just access that from a gui built using C/C++ it would be cool. Thomas

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newbie question about self and eval
by Prateep Siamwalla Jan. 25, 2000

Jan. 25, 2000

Hello o' wise pythoners, I have a simple question to ask any generous pythoners out there: I have a simple tab delim text file: test.txt --------- fee harry fi joe fo jack fum jim fee john fo sam I trying to make a class to read in these values and stuff them into lists which this class keeps (warning, spacing migth be off) ------- class myclass: def __init__(self,filename='c:\\test.txt'): self.fee = [] self.fi = [] self.fo = [] self.fum = [] f = open(filename,'r') rl = f.readlines() f.close() for lines in rl: token = string.split(lines,'\011') # do something more efficient than this !!! bucket = token[0] if bucket =='fee': self.fee.append(token[1]) elif bucket == 'fi': self.fi.append(token[1]) elif bucket == 'fo': self.fo.append(token[1]) else: self.fum.append(token[1]) --------- I know there must be a more effective way of appending items into the various class lists, (which probably involves eval or something similar, but I've tried some feeble ideas, none of which seem to fly. I've tried self.eval(token[0]).append(token[1]) but that obviously failed in a big way. Could someone please show me the way? Thanks in Advance, teep

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Re-assigning 'stdin' Problem...
by Kim Jeong Ju Jan. 25, 2000

Jan. 25, 2000

Hi! I am a newbie to Python and having some trouble. What I want to do is re-assigning standard input to my own version of console system. ( it uses c string buffer inside. ) I made a console class in order to link Python's stdin to my c string buffer.. class MyConsole: def readline( self ): if ( self.BufferHasData ) return self.GetBufferData() else -> return "" def InBufferHasData( self ) . . def GetBufferData( self ) . . sys.stdin = MyConsole() When stdin is in need, like running 'pdb' procedure, system hangs out. I guess that marked line in readline function is problem. if i replace it with 'return None ', interpreter complains that it is not string object... I guess I must stop the Python interpreter from requesting more readline. What can I do to fix this problem? You could just drop me a link to a reference. Any suggestions, instructions and helps appreciated ahead.. Bye. from Kim Jeong Ju.

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Tab notebook control available for Tkinter?
by Daniel Weber Jan. 25, 2000

Jan. 25, 2000

I'm trying to write a new front-end to a product (written in OS/2) to make it cross-platform. However, I need a notebook tab control, which I haven't been able to find in the archives or any reference in deja.com. Other than moving to wxWindows (which isn't available on OS/2 that I can see), are there any Tkinter based solutions? TIA -- daniel

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delete files?
by nathan Jan. 25, 2000

Jan. 25, 2000

Hello somebody knows how can I quickly delete files (without using os.system..) ? Working under WinNT, v.1.5.2. Thank you nat

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Importing a dll with a different name
by calishar＠my-deja.com Jan. 25, 2000

Jan. 25, 2000

Hi Folks (who are here), I am running into a slight problem with imports after using installer that I can't quite manage to figure out. The application I am working on import win32com.client, which imports pythoncom this works fine as long as I am on my system, but when I switch to a different system (after building the installable app) the import fails. I have managed to figure out that it is because pythoncom is defined in the windows registry to point to a specific dll (c:\windows\system\pythoncom15.dll). I am also having the same problem with pywintypes (and pywintypes15.dll). What I am trying to workout is a way that I can check to see if import pythoncom will work or not, if it doesn't I will need to import pythoncom15 from the current path Does this make sense? and is there someone around who can help me figure out what I need to put in the sanity check routine? Calishar Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.

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Dictionary from a file
by Peter Schopfer (aka Dr. J. - magician) Jan. 25, 2000

Jan. 25, 2000

Hello I have a dictionary that is too big to fit right in my program, so i was going to have it as a seperat file, labeled dic.py. how would i be able to retrieve this dictionary. wuld this work: from dic.py import dictionary mydic=dic.dictionary i am a newbie, so any help would be appreciated thanks keagan

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Re: tabs do WHAT?
by Ulf Engstr�m Jan. 25, 2000

Jan. 25, 2000

>BTW, people here seem to have adopted the idea that if you don't like >a particular feature of a language, you should abandon it(e.g., "You don't >like indentation? Use Perl!"). But many languages have evolved exactly this >way: users criticize, complain, praize and whine, >thereby influencing the >shape of the languge in question. You can > >find a very nice description >of this process with respect to C++ >in "The Evolution of C++ : Language >Design in the Marketplace of >Ideas", by Jim Waldo (Editor), James Waldo >(Editor). OKi, but I think the difference is that the tabbing is a main part of the Python language, one of the things that makes it different. I don't like the {}, but I won't try to change C/C++ or any other languages, instead I use the language I find best and most useful. I like Python mainly because of it's simplicity while it at the same time is so powerful, and I really really like the intendation. I got into a project that's been developed in Python during 2 years before I ever saw it. There were over 100'000 lines of code, and talking out of experience with other languages, I know that I couldn't have gotten into the that project that easily in any other language. Reading all this code from many other developers was made a lot easier with Python and a big reason was that the intendation is always there. Best regards Ulf Engstrøm (mail) ulf.engstrom(a)b2b-link.com (phone) +47 6676 5863 (fax) +47 6676 5861 (web) http://www.b2b-link.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

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