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Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] Appscript/administrator privileges
by has Nov. 27, 2004

Nov. 27, 2004

Kevin Walzer wrote: >Does appscript support anything analogous to AppleScript's ability to >execute a command with administrator privileges (hooks into >Authorization Services)? Couldn't find anything in the documentation >about that. Of course, with Bob's authorization services wrapper, >perhaps this isn't even necessary. Can you give an example? Thanks, has -- http://freespace.virgin.net/hamish.sanderson/

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Appscript/administrator privileges
by Kevin Walzer Nov. 26, 2004

Nov. 26, 2004

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Does appscript support anything analogous to AppleScript's ability to execute a command with administrator privileges (hooks into Authorization Services)? Couldn't find anything in the documentation about that. Of course, with Bob's authorization services wrapper, perhaps this isn't even necessary. - -- Kevin Walzer, PhD WordTech Software--Open Source Applications and Packages for OS X http://www.wordtech-software.com http://www.smallbizmac.com http://www.kevin-walzer.com mailto:sw@wordtech-software.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFBp/MVJmdQs+6YVcoRAshMAJsERFz6E8kUqomE9SeDhVCPHDeOBQCdGsGl gtrighGdpI43JvkT+bmX06c= =LCfI -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Problems installing MacPython add-ons for 10.3
by Christopher rasch Nov. 26, 2004

Nov. 26, 2004

Hi, I'm trying to install the IDE and the Package Manager on Mac OS X 10.3.5. According to the MacPython on Mac OS X 10.3 page here: http://homepages.cwi.nl/~jack/macpython/macpython-osx.html Mac OS X 10.3.x already includes a MacPython 2.3 engine. So "...the only thing the MacPython distribution for 10.3 contains are the IDE, the Package Manager and the waste module on which they depend. You can get this distribution from the [16]download page." I downloaded the MacPython 2.3 for Pather addons installer from here: http://ftp.cwi.nl/jack/python/mac/MacPython-Panther-2.3-2.dmg I then installed it. The installallation seemed to go okay. However, when I clicked on the PackageManager icon, it appeared to start to launch, then shut down immediately. Same with the IDE. As you can see from the screenshot below, contrary to instructions above, the MacPython distribution does not appear to include the waste module. If I tried to run the PackageManager from the command line in the following directory: /Applications/MacPython-2.3/PackageManager.app/Contents/Resources I got the following error: chris:/Applications/MacPython-2.3/PackageManager.app/Contents/Resources chris$ python PackageManager.py Traceback (most recent call last): File "PackageManager.py", line 35, in ? import W File "/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.3/Mac/Tools/ IDE/W.py", line 7, in ? from Wtext import * File "/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.3/Mac/Tools/ IDE/Wtext.py", line 6, in ? import waste ImportError: No module named waste I then searched the pythonmac-SIG archives, for site:mail.python.org waste And found this email: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/pythonmac-sig/2003-June/007958.html Which gave the following instruction for installing waste: get waste from http://www.merzwaren.com/bin/waste/waste-21b1.sit unstuff waste-21b1.sit mount the WASTE disk image ( waste-21b1-distribution.img ) sudo python2.3 setup.py install I got to the point that the WASTE disk image was install. However this file (required for the last step): http://undefined.org/python/waste_for_python2.3.tgz No longer appears to be available at that site. Ther merzwaren doesn't contain installation instructions for waste either. (At least that I could find). So I'm a bit stuck. Any ideas what I should try next? Thanks for any help you may wish to provide. Chris

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Re: [Pythonmac-SIG] In panther where are Python Carbon files Qd, Quickdraw, etc?
by Louis Pecora Nov. 26, 2004

Nov. 26, 2004

Bob Ippolito wrote: > > On Nov 23, 2004, at 9:06 PM, Louis Pecora wrote: > >> Bob Ippolito wrote: >> >>> >>> Standard place: >>> >>> /System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.3/lib/ >>> python2.3/ plat-mac/Carbon/Qd.py >>> >>> Not sure whether it was your Xcode or OS X upgrade, but at least >>> one of the two did the wrong thing. >>> >>> -bob >> >> >> >> Yikes! They're there! On my machine. >> Why didn't Find find them? Strange. I guess I need to add a path >> to them. I would have thought that the usual MacPython IDE would >> have that built in. >> >> Thanks. Let's see if I can get the IDE to find the files. > > > Maybe you have more than one Python installed? A tell would be if > there is a /usr/local/bin/python, or maybe a Fink Python. Missing > the Carbon modules leads me to believe that it might be some > non-framework Python lying around? > > -bob No Python, but some python 'things'. Here's what's in that directory: ls -F cisco_cert_mgr* img2png* pyalacarte.py pyshell* xrced* cvpnd* img2py* pyalamode* pyshell.py xrced.py genaxmodule* img2xpm* pyalamode.py pywrap* helpviewer* ipseclog* pycrust* pywxrc* helpviewer.py pyalacarte* pycrust.py vpnclient* -- Cheers, Lou Pecora Code 6362 Naval Research Lab Washington, DC 20375 USA Ph: +202-767-6002 email: pecora(a)anvil.nrl.navy.mil

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Mac OS 10.3.5 and tkinter.
by Paul Taka Nov. 26, 2004

Nov. 26, 2004

Hi list, I'm new in Macintosh environment, and I'd like to begin development with python and Tk. OS 10.3.5 comes with part of MacPython, so I looked on Internet and found the FAQ which says to install tcl/tk (I installed version BI 8.4.7), then install Panther addons. Once done, when I launch Package Manager to install _tkinter, I get this message: cannot open http://www.python.org/packman/version-0.3/darwin-7.5.1-Power_Macintosh.plist: HTTP error 404: Not found. And the PackageManager window stays white... I looked on Internet again, and found archive of this list, which said it was because version number of darwin change everytime, but it was fixed now.. So I really don't understand what I've done wrong... Is there any bundle of Python with tk included anymore? Or a way to install tk without Package Manager? Thank you.. Paul

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Better Aqua support for Tkinter apps via Tile extension
by Kevin Walzer Nov. 24, 2004

Nov. 24, 2004

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi--just wanted to call everyone's attention to this link if you're using Tkinter: http://tkinter.unpythonic.net/wiki/UsingTile This describes how to call the Tk Tile extension from Python. The relevance of Tile is that it offers improved theming support for Tk widgets, and it makes a dramatic difference with Aqua. With Tile, Tk picks up the Aqua "pinstripe" background, adds a native progressbar and notebook widget, and a few other things. I use Tile in a Tcl application I'm developing, and it's a godsend. (See http://wiki.tcl.tk/11075, http://wiki.tcl.tk/12565, and http://wiki.tcl.tk/12786 for more information and screenshots on how Tile Aqua looks.) If you have the latest TkAqua Batteries Included distribution, v. 8.4.7(see http://tcltkaqua.sourceforge.net), then you have Tile on your machine. Briefly speaking, here's the code to use with Tkinter (adapted from the Tkinter wiki site): root = Tk() root.tk.call('package', 'require', 'tile') root.tk.call('namespace', 'import', '-force', 'ttk::*') root.tk.call('tile::setTheme', 'aqua') v = IntVar() Radiobutton(root, text="Hello", variable=v, value=1).pack() Radiobutton(root, text="There", variable=v, value=2).pack() root.mainloop() This does indeed work: it creates a little Aqua window with the "pinstripe" background that is lacking in standard TkAqua windows. I don't want to overstate the value of Tile. It simply brings TkAqua to where it should be in terms of native look and feel, so that it's no longer lagging behind. (Tile will be included in the core Tk distribution coming next year.) And it's not complete, at least for Aqua: it doesn't get scrollbars right, so when I'm working in Tcl/Tk, I use a mix of Tile and standard Tk widgets (esp. scrollbars) to get the best combination. If you're using PyObjC, wxPython, or even PyQt, you get better, more sophisticated Aqua support out of the box. But if you're working with Tkinter, then take a closer look at Tile. You'll see a pretty big difference in how your applications look. Kevin - -- Kevin Walzer, PhD WordTech Software--Open Source Applications and Packages for OS X http://www.wordtech-software.com http://www.smallbizmac.com http://www.kevin-walzer.com mailto:sw@wordtech-software.com - -- Kevin Walzer, PhD WordTech Software--Open Source Applications and Packages for OS X http://www.wordtech-software.com http://www.smallbizmac.com http://www.kevin-walzer.com mailto:sw@wordtech-software.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFBpUIkJmdQs+6YVcoRAu4+AJ96xYE3uVzzfcS4+XgBahzJUK2rmwCggr3b SfYXOZsJ1Y7O28Mve/hgX84= =tI3V -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Categories and runtime functions
by Dethe Elza Nov. 24, 2004

Nov. 24, 2004

Can PyObjC be used to extend existing Objective-C classes, either via Categories or class_addMethods() (or in any other way)? What are the requirements to do so? For instance, I believe Categories require the headers to be available. --Dethe "And you think you're so clever and classless and free" — John Lennon on prototype-based programming

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please help: python crashes when I try to import orange lib (OS X)
by Christoph Pingel Nov. 24, 2004

Nov. 24, 2004

Hello, can anybody tell me what's going on here (or give me a pointer where to start looking): Nov 22 18:05:03 localhost crashdump: Unable to determine CPSProcessSerNum pid: 1230 name: python This is form python.crash.log ------ Command: python Path: /usr/bin/python Version: ??? (???) PID: 1230 Thread: 0 Exception: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (0x0001) Codes: KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE (0x0002) at 0x00000004 Thread 0 Crashed: 0 org.python.python 0x10094c4c PyErr_NewException + 0x18c (errors.c:544) 1 orange.so 0x020223b8 makeExceptionClass(char*, char*, _object*) + 0x94 2 orange.so 0x021c8c74 initorange + 0x30 3 org.python.Python.framework 0x95fc1bc4 _PyImport_LoadDynamicModule + 0xcc 4 org.python.Python.framework 0x95fbf7a4 PyImport_ExecCodeModuleEx + 0x17b8 5 org.python.Python.framework 0x95fc08c4 PyImport_ImportModuleEx + 0x930 6 org.python.Python.framework 0x95fc02e0 PyImport_ImportModuleEx + 0x34c 7 org.python.Python.framework 0x95fbfe00 PyImport_ImportModule + 0xc8 8 org.python.Python.framework 0x95fbffd4 PyImport_ImportModuleEx + 0x40 9 org.python.Python.framework 0x95f9cbf0 _PyUnicodeUCS2_IsAlpha + 0x90 10 org.python.Python.framework 0x95f4a8d0 PyObject_Call + 0x30 11 org.python.Python.framework 0x95fa91ec PyEval_CallObjectWithKeywords + 0x100 12 org.python.Python.framework 0x95fa6984 PyEval_EvalCode + 0x2280 13 org.python.Python.framework 0x95fa7e30 PyEval_EvalCodeEx + 0x850 14 org.python.Python.framework 0x95fa4734 PyEval_EvalCode + 0x30 15 org.python.Python.framework 0x95fc85f0 PyRun_FileExFlags + 0xe4 16 org.python.Python.framework 0x95fc7354 PyRun_InteractiveOneFlags + 0x1f0 17 org.python.Python.framework 0x95fc713c PyRun_InteractiveLoopFlags + 0x10c 18 org.python.Python.framework 0x95fc6fd4 PyRun_AnyFileExFlags + 0x54 19 org.python.Python.framework 0x95fd1ec0 Py_Main + 0x7cc 20 python 0x00003c78 start + 0x1bc 21 python 0x00003aec start + 0x30 ------ I'm afraid that something's wrong with my system, but I had a hard time googling for getCPSProcessSerNum: it returned 0 results. Same at Apple's site... What does CPS mean? Thanks for any input, best, Christoph

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Embedded Python compiling help
by Cricket Halsey Nov. 23, 2004

Nov. 23, 2004

Dear Michael: Do you know there's another Michael Gaiman, a dear friend, who manages rock bands? As a Mac person, but a bit of a Luddite, I don't know what an embedded python might be. I have a vivid imagination, so I'm worried about your needing help. Are you a college student? Your namesake is 50 years old, a mensch, lives in L.A., and is a terrific dad to an amazingly bright & sweet toddler nammed Emmett. Whoever you are, may you have a happy Thanksgiving... Cricket

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setup.py for Numeric/Numarray
by Chris Barker Nov. 23, 2004

Nov. 23, 2004

Hi all, Bob's patch to the Numeric setup.py made it's way to the numaray CVS, and there is a little discussion about improvements. I really don't know what to say but if some if the OS-X experts (Bob and Jack, anyway!) on this list could weigh in, the would be great. Here is a consolidation of the thread: Andrea Riciputi wrote: > I've noticed your patch for MacOS X, and I think that a better solution > should use sys.platform instead of a path search, since Apple could > always change its framework location. I've also removed the > VECLIB_PATH/Headers from the include path because AFAIK Apple gcc > already knows where to search for the vecLib framework. Here it is a > diff output between my addons.py and the CVS one. <trimmed by me: chb> >> ! if sys.platform == "darwin": >> ! lapack_include_dirs = >> ["Packages/LinearAlgebra2/Src",'Include/numarray'] >> - lapack_link_args = ['-framework', 'vecLib'] >> ! VECLIB_PATH = '/System/Library/Frameworks/vecLib.framework' >> ! if os.path.exists(VECLIB_PATH): >> ! lapack_link_args = ['-framework', 'vecLib'] >> ! lapack_include_dirs.append( os.path.join(VECLIB_PATH, >> 'Headers')) >> lapack_libs = [] >> lapack_dirs = [] Todd Miller wrote: > Not to look a patch-horse in the mouth, but IMHO, the sys.platform idea > is good but the VECLIB_PATH elimination maybe less so. The reason I > question the VECLIB_PATH change is that we're removing explicit and > generally harmless extra information in exchange for two assumptions: > (1) gcc knows the path already (2) the numarray Mac user is using gcc. > Other opinions? Mac users please speak up if you think the VECLIB_PATH > change is a good one or it won't get done. Andrea Riciputi wrote: > I see your point but AFAIK the links option "-framework vecLib" will > work *only* with Apple gcc (ld) and Apple gcc (ld) does know where > frameworks are. From Apple ld man page: > > >> -framework name[,suffix] >> Specifies a framework to link against. Frameworks are dynamic >> shared libraries, but they are stored in different locations, >> and therefore must be searched for differently. When this option >> is specified, ld searches for framework `name.framework/name' >> first in any directories specified with the -F option, then in >> the standard framework directories /Library/Frameworks, /Net- >> work/Library/Frameworks, and /System/Library/Frameworks. The >> placement of the -framework option is significant, as it deter- >> mines when and how the framework is searched. If the optional >> suffix is specified the framework is first searched for the name >> with the suffix and then without. > > > >> -Fdir >> In Apple's version of GCC only, add the directory dir to the head >> of the list of directories to be searched for frameworks. >> >> The framework search algorithm is, for an inclusion of >> <Fmwk/Header.h>, to look for files named path/Fmwk.framework/Head- >> ers/Header.h or path/Fmwk.framework/PrivateHeaders/Header.h where >> path includes /System/Library/Frameworks/ /Library/Frameworks/, and >> /Local/Library/Frameworks/, plus any additional paths specified by >> -F. Robert Kern wrote: > IBM's xlc will also find the appropriate framework, but as you can see > this is only a link-time option and has nothing to do with finding headers. > > Using > > #include <vecLib/vecLib.h> > > will find the appropriate header without any command-line options. Using > > #include <clapack.h> > > will not. > > Fortunately, neither one is used nor needed by lapack_litemodule.c, so > for this case, no include-path needs to be specified. If you don't want to post tot he NumPy list directly, I'd be glad to forward comments on. -Chris -- Christopher Barker, Ph.D. Oceanographer NOAA/OR&R/HAZMAT (206) 526-6959 voice 7600 Sand Point Way NE (206) 526-6329 fax Seattle, WA 98115 (206) 526-6317 main reception Chris.Barker(a)noaa.gov

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