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Re: [PYTHONMAC-SIG] What is needed for MacPython 1.4?
by dave＠zeus.hud.ac.uk July 17, 1996

July 17, 1996

> From owner-pythonmac-sig(a)python.org Tue Jul 16 14:13:31 1996 > From: Peter Hansbo <hansbo(a)math.chalmers.se> > Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 09:46:25 +0200 (MET DST) > To: pythonmac-sig(a)python.org > Subject: Re: [PYTHONMAC-SIG] What is needed for MacPython 1.4? > Content-Md5: r7/pzF+uLvaJU/pCLWJp+Q== > Sender: owner-pythonmac-sig(a)python.org > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type> : > text/plain> ; > charset="us-ascii"> > Content-Length: 563 > > > Folks, > > if people have simple wishes for what should be included in MacPython 1.4 > > (based on what is available in 1.3.3): let me know. I'm thinking here > > of modules like the software developed by the image or numerics SIG, > > not of things that I would have to actually program myself:-) > > > > Just let me cast my vote for a numeric+Tkinter version. I could > really use that! > Ditto, + PIL (of course)! ________________________________________________________________________________ ************************************************ * David Dench * * The University of Huddersfield , UK * * Tel: 01484 472083 * * email: dave(a)zeus.hud.ac.uk * ************************************************ ________________________________________________________________________________ ================= PYTHONMAC-SIG - SIG on Python for the Apple Macintosh send messages to: pythonmac-sig(a)python.org administrivia to: pythonmac-sig-request(a)python.org =================

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Re: [PYTHONMAC-SIG] What is needed for MacPython 1.4?
by Peter Hansbo July 16, 1996

July 16, 1996

> Folks, > if people have simple wishes for what should be included in MacPython 1.4 > (based on what is available in 1.3.3): let me know. I'm thinking here > of modules like the software developed by the image or numerics SIG, > not of things that I would have to actually program myself:-) Just let me cast my vote for a numeric+Tkinter version. I could really use that! ================= PYTHONMAC-SIG - SIG on Python for the Apple Macintosh send messages to: pythonmac-sig(a)python.org administrivia to: pythonmac-sig-request(a)python.org =================

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Re: [PYTHONMAC-SIG] chdir() and Standard File
by just＠knoware.nl July 14, 1996

July 14, 1996

Jack, At 11:55 PM 7/14/96, Jack Jansen wrote: >Currently, the Standard File working directory and the "other" working >directory (i.e. what you set with os.chdir() and what relative paths >are relative to) are completely separated. This has the advantage that >python programs have a "MacOS feel", i.e. the initial >macfs.StandardGetFile dialog will come up in the place people expect >from other mac programs. On the other hand it feels strange to Python: >you chdir() somewhere and ask the user for a file, but it comes up in >a different folder from where you just chdir'd to. > >Possibilities: >- keep it as it is (chdir and Standard File completely uncoupled) No! (err, yes but...) >- make them tightly coupled (chdir immedeately changes Standard File > folder) No! Either way it will confuse users. >- make them optionally coupled (setting "macfs.followchdir" to one > makes Standard File follow chdir) Hmm... nah. >- create macfs.chdir() which would set Standard File working > directory. Yes! That way it will be easy to implement this: when you choose "Save As..." you automatically get to the folder where the original file lives. I hate it when apps send you to the apps' home folder when you choose "Save As..." after doubleclicking a document... And you'd be independent of os.chdir(), which might be used for other reasons (like if you import modules that live in the same directory as __main__ and that directory is not in the Python search path). It should be clearly documented to avoid confusion. (but I guess you knew my point of view somehow...) Just ================= PYTHONMAC-SIG - SIG on Python for the Apple Macintosh send messages to: pythonmac-sig(a)python.org administrivia to: pythonmac-sig-request(a)python.org =================

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chdir() and Standard File
by Jack Jansen July 14, 1996

July 14, 1996

A design question: speak up now or forever hold your silence:-) Currently, the Standard File working directory and the "other" working directory (i.e. what you set with os.chdir() and what relative paths are relative to) are completely separated. This has the advantage that python programs have a "MacOS feel", i.e. the initial macfs.StandardGetFile dialog will come up in the place people expect from other mac programs. On the other hand it feels strange to Python: you chdir() somewhere and ask the user for a file, but it comes up in a different folder from where you just chdir'd to. Possibilities: - keep it as it is (chdir and Standard File completely uncoupled) - make them tightly coupled (chdir immedeately changes Standard File folder) - make them optionally coupled (setting "macfs.followchdir" to one makes Standard File follow chdir) - create macfs.chdir() which would set Standard File working directory. I'd personally be in favor of the last solution, but let's hear other people's opinions. -- Jack Jansen | ++++ stop the execution of Mumia Abu-Jamal ++++ Jack.Jansen(a)cwi.nl | ++++ if you agree copy these lines to your sig ++++ http://www.cwi.nl/~jack | see http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/spg-l/sigaction.htm ================= PYTHONMAC-SIG - SIG on Python for the Apple Macintosh send messages to: pythonmac-sig(a)python.org administrivia to: pythonmac-sig-request(a)python.org =================

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What is needed for MacPython 1.4?
by Jack Jansen July 12, 1996

July 12, 1996

Folks, if people have simple wishes for what should be included in MacPython 1.4 (based on what is available in 1.3.3): let me know. I'm thinking here of modules like the software developed by the image or numerics SIG, not of things that I would have to actually program myself:-) Also, have people looked at the documentation and examples in 1.3.3? Anything critical missing? Anyone who has examples to add? -- Jack Jansen | ++++ stop the execution of Mumia Abu-Jamal ++++ Jack.Jansen(a)cwi.nl | ++++ if you agree copy these lines to your sig ++++ http://www.cwi.nl/~jack | see http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/spg-l/sigaction.htm ================= PYTHONMAC-SIG - SIG on Python for the Apple Macintosh send messages to: pythonmac-sig(a)python.org administrivia to: pythonmac-sig-request(a)python.org =================

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Re: [PYTHONMAC-SIG] chdir(), listdir() on other volumes [was Mac Open]
by Jack Jansen July 9, 1996

July 9, 1996

Recently, "Steven D. Majewski" <sdm7g(a)virginia.edu> said: > > > While we're on the subject, Yet Another Mac pathname gotcha : > > I was going crazy trying to chdir() onto another volume, with > no luck. I was about to finally decide that it *wasn't* a pathname > syntax problem, but a bug in the Python code, when I noted that > getbootvol() returns the name with a *TRAILING* ":" -- which is > not how the volumes are displayed when you chdir all the way to > the root and do a listdir(). This is interesting, I never knew of the "virtual" toplevel above all disks! Still, it is reasonable that listdir() returns the names without trailing colon even here: otherwise any pathname manipulating routines would become even more complicated than they already are... Now that we're on the subject of pathnames, there's something else that bothers me: if I read the docs correctly MacOS doesn't mind in the least if you have two disks with the same name (apparently it can't get confused, because it uses FSSpecs everywhere internally). Anyone feel like trying out how Python reacts to having two disks with the same name mounted? -- Jack Jansen | ++++ stop the execution of Mumia Abu-Jamal ++++ Jack.Jansen(a)cwi.nl | ++++ if you agree copy these lines to your sig ++++ http://www.cwi.nl/~jack | see http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/spg-l/sigaction.htm ================= PYTHONMAC-SIG - SIG on Python for the Apple Macintosh send messages to: pythonmac-sig(a)python.org administrivia to: pythonmac-sig-request(a)python.org =================

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Tk on Mac
by dave＠zeus.hud.ac.uk June 27, 1996

June 27, 1996

Dear All, This may be a case of look in the documentation .... I have just downloaded the 'big' binary for 68xxx Macs, and installed it. The test suite works fine. Some of the Tk examples work fine, but others fire up the python window, then hang ( needing a reboot ). Is this a case of trying to run a PPC demo on 68000 ? Also how do you get out of the echo demo ? Thanks David ________________________________________________________________________________ ************************************************ * David Dench * * The University of Huddersfield , UK * * Tel: 01484 472083 * * email: dave(a)zeus.hud.ac.uk * ************************************************ ________________________________________________________________________________ ================= PYTHONMAC-SIG - SIG on Python for the Apple Macintosh send messages to: pythonmac-sig(a)python.org administrivia to: pythonmac-sig-request(a)python.org =================

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Re: [PYTHONMAC-SIG] Mac open()
by friedric＠rose.rsoc.rockwell.com June 21, 1996

June 21, 1996

|> I bet it's the Mac pathname syntax. If a pathname contains a colon, |> it's *relative* when it starts with a colon, it's *absolute* when |> it doesn't (when it contains no colon at all, it's always relative). |> |> A pathname of the form HD:dir:subdir:file is an absolute pathname, |> on volume "HD", folder "dir", subfilder "subdir", file "file". |> |> A pathname of the form ":subdir:file" is a relative pathname, |> in the current directory, subdirectory "subdir", file "file". |> |> --Guido van Rossum Thanks for the insights everyone. I wanted to make my test scripts as portable as possible to the Mac so I whipped out this little routine. Seems to work fine. Maybe others may find it useful or suggest improvements? def mpath(path): """Converts a POSIX path to an equivalent Macintosh path Won't work for '../../style/paths'. I'm not sure the Mac has such a concept.""" import os, string if os.name == 'mac' : #I'm on a Mac if path[:3] == '../': mp = '::' path = path[3:] elif path[:2] == './': mp = ':' path = path[2:] elif path[0] == '/': mp = '' path = path[1:] else: mp = ':' pl = string.split(path, '/') mp = mp + string.join(pl, ':') return mp else: return path ================= PYTHONMAC-SIG - SIG on Python for the Apple Macintosh send messages to: pythonmac-sig(a)python.org administrivia to: pythonmac-sig-request(a)python.org =================

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Mac open()
by Robin Friedrich June 20, 1996

June 20, 1996

This is really bugging me. On my mac, I can't seem to use the open() function for files in subfolders. I'm using the right separator etc. But it insists on failing to find the file. I'm using the 1.3 PowerPC version. Any idea's? This may relate to the faulty rename builtin function. >>> s = open('data:DoI.txt') Traceback (innermost last): File "<stdin>", line 1, in ? IOError: (-43, 'File not found') >>> os.listdir('data') ['DoI.txt', 'parrot'] >>> f = open('data:a','w') Traceback (innermost last): File "<stdin>", line 1, in ? IOError: (-43, 'File not found') ================= PYTHONMAC-SIG - SIG on Python for the Apple Macintosh send messages to: pythonmac-sig(a)python.org administrivia to: pythonmac-sig-request(a)python.org =================

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by billpy＠mousa.demon.co.uk June 19, 1996

June 19, 1996

Reply - To: Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 15:56:25 +0000 To: pythonmac-sig(a)python.org From: Bill Bedford <billpy(a)mail.demon.net> Subject: [PYTHONMAC-SIG] Illustrator module I've just complete a first attempt at a module that writes Adobe Illustrator 3 files. It is limited in that it will only draw lines and place imported files, which is about all I need at the moment. It also needs some work on defining some fields in the header, particularly the ones that define colours and page size. If anyone would like to see it and willing to offer constructive criticisms, let me know and I'll mail you a copy. You will need Illustrator or Freehand to read the file. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Bedford Designer of Photo-Etches billb(a)mousa.demon.co.uk owner Brit_Rail-L --- british railways historical list ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ================= PYTHONMAC-SIG - SIG on Python for the Apple Macintosh send messages to: pythonmac-sig(a)python.org administrivia to: pythonmac-sig-request(a)python.org =================

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